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stopdiggin

(15,707 posts)
7. disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:40 PM
Tuesday

I have seen Joe Biden in public appearances since the 'disastrous debate' - and I think I (and the nation) could live well (and sleep quite soundly) with the level of acuity on display. Also - not at all convinced (or see sound evidence) that 'another candidate' would have had a better shot of beating Trump. The 'malaise' was baked in, and the electorate was in a 'crappy' mood. As evidenced ... And thirdly - and something that seems to be conveniently passed over or forgotten, by those otherwise accounted politically savvy - is the inherent power of incumbency. Something that no political institution (or player) has ever been happy to lightly p*ss away. Nor should! (have they any sort of political acumen)

The cancer diagnosis is of course another thing ... And, to my knowledge, did not play into ...

But the notion that Joe Biden was a shambling wreck - known to all - during the greater portion of his White House residency ... Belies what many of us saw. And I believe to be a convenient (and opportunistic?) re-write of the actual conditions. And I believe further - that Jill Biden (and many others) were legitimately surprised by the 'debate'.

My two cents. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Her interview on Morning Joe this morning was very good Raven123 Tuesday #1
"When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn't talk about him" MIButterfly Tuesday #2
You mean the lingerie model? Joinfortmill Tuesday #16
That's a nice way of putting it, but yes, that one MIButterfly Tuesday #18
I wish Biden well but... tman Tuesday #3
Why? obamanut2012 Tuesday #4
The international travel was 12 days before the debate EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #5
Decline and normal aging are two very different things crimycarny Tuesday #29
No, I don't think he was. tman Tuesday #9
I recall Obama's first debate with Romney. 70sEraVet Tuesday #20
Oh yes, I remember that Obama/Romney debate PatSeg Tuesday #22
the 'mental fog' and 'diminished figure' has been SO obviously oversold .... - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Tuesday #10
Yup. So you're sitting offstage and suddenly you think your husband is having a stroke. So you just continue to sit 3Hotdogs Tuesday #21
disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated) stopdiggin Tuesday #7
And the camera man didn't help. Let me tell you... Joinfortmill Tuesday #17
I couldn't agree more MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #19
I agree PatSeg Tuesday #23
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin Tuesday #26
Seriously PatSeg Yesterday #36
Agree 100% crimycarny Tuesday #32
I remember that a number of people understood why Biden would run again... CBHagman Tuesday #33
She is saying he would have won if he had stayed in MichMan Tuesday #8
I sitll think it's possible! LymphocyteLover Tuesday #11
Joe Biden very possibly had a better shot than Kamala stopdiggin Tuesday #13
Even a Biden at half-speed was still infinitely superior than Trump, as was Kamala. Tommy Carcetti Tuesday #24
He said in 2'0 he'd probably be a 1 term president. We SHOULD have had a primary. Callie1979 Tuesday #25
When he won the 2020 primaries, i knew we were in trouble in 2024. dem4decades Tuesday #30
Not if he'd stuck with what he initially said. IMO anyway. Callie1979 Yesterday #39
I agree, it would still have been a tough row to hoe. dem4decades Yesterday #40
Oh, they're going to blame Biden till 1/29! Callie1979 Yesterday #41
Joe delayed retirement to save us from Trump. Glad he stepped up.. Politics is ugly. Hindsight is easy. twodogsbarking Tuesday #6
Indeed. And not often mentioned is that he was integral in getting Finland to join NATO Bongo Prophet Yesterday #37
- Lemon Lyman Tuesday #12
I didn't see any of it, but maybe Rita was still upset about losing Rob DFW Yesterday #35
Thank you for a nice post! BidenRocks Tuesday #14
I Second That! Joinfortmill Tuesday #15
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin Tuesday #27
I for the life of me kacekwl Tuesday #28
Trump's performance was disqualifying.... MervinFerd Tuesday #31
And people lost confidence in him because... Trueblue Texan Yesterday #34
Exactly TT popsdenver Yesterday #38
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