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harumph

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4. I would say, after Nixon, there was a chance to right the ship.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:40 AM
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Sadly, our macho culture thought Carter had been a wimp with the whole Iranian hostage crisis and voted for Reagan. Reagan was the introduction of supply-side economics, tax cuts for the wealthy, poo-pooing of alternative energy, and, the common practice of disparaging the poor and non-white citizenry on the one hand and the valorizing of so-called "job creators" on the other. The beginnings of right wing radio expansion were during the Reagan era. Managing to be both an arrogant puppet and self righteous prick (see his HUAC testimony) not enough people had the wisdom to see through the bullshit. The morality of the demographic - the 30% that intractably support TSF, was formed during Reagan era. The dismantling of the Soviet Union began during Reagan's time and the stupid fucking republicans had NO PLAN IN PLACE to assist the transition of the former CCCP to a democracy. Instead, the CCCP was sold off for scrap to the Oligarchs. To be fair, Clinton didn't do shit for Russia either. I remember arguing in the 1990s that if we didn't actively step up to the plate to help Russia inoculate themselves against the toxicity of the former Soviet Union, it would become the failed crime state with nukes. One idiotic decision after another.

Edited to add: I believe the reason we did not assist Russia economically was because our corporate class were afraid of competition. Russia has an educated citizenry and amazing natural resources (but) has lacked sufficient capital and supply chains to leverage them. Now it's run by a parasitic oligarchic class with an extraction mindset. The oligarchs could not care less about innovation as long as their territory provides enough oil and minerals to fuel their yachts.

That's what it felt like to me. Thinking about it now brings those feelings back. Biophilic Yesterday #1
Then we topped the whole decade off with Kent State. The 60s were truly over. Walleye Yesterday #2
Yes, not just one assassination or event but the culmination. End of an era. txwhitedove Yesterday #6
Kennedy and KS azureblue 18 hrs ago #43
The people in charge knew what would happen if they gave those weekend warriors live ammo and crowd control Walleye 17 hrs ago #47
This still makes me misty Dave in VA 18 hrs ago #42
Me too azureblue 18 hrs ago #44
I have been saying that the younger generation is angry with us and disappointed Walleye 17 hrs ago #49
Damn! These onions...! slightlv 16 hrs ago #50
the creep Butterflies 12 hrs ago #60
Yes! Thats the one slightlv 1 hr ago #63
It may make you misty. It makes me ANGRY. johnnyfins 15 hrs ago #51
Yeah. electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #55
I've been saying that for at least 50 years CanonRay Yesterday #3
I would say, after Nixon, there was a chance to right the ship. harumph Yesterday #4
When they let Nixon skate for the good of the country. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #12
I think the assassination of MLK, Jr. had even more impact. yardwork Yesterday #5
I Disagree. In Terms Of Civil Rights, Of Course. But RFK Was Going.... ColoringFool Yesterday #11
I will disagree with that. Most of the delegates were chosen in the backroom rurallib Yesterday #16
What? llmart 18 hrs ago #41
no mokeyz Yesterday #23
I agree. intheflow Yesterday #28
It did, azureblue 18 hrs ago #45
The assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK were Farmer-Rick 15 hrs ago #52
I was just a kid Skittles 13 hrs ago #54
I felt that way at the time.. mountain grammy Yesterday #7
Actually, RFK was shot in the early a.m. of June 5, & pronounced dead on June 6, which is the usual date associated.... ColoringFool Yesterday #8
Was it Eastern or Pacific time? 12:31AM or 12:32? Chasstev365 Yesterday #13
Sixties Peak unweird Yesterday #9
That would be a great topic for a time travel story Unwind Your Mind Yesterday #10
A lot of things changed in the 90s videohead5 Yesterday #14
Yes! Chasstev365 Yesterday #15
Ken Starr's ascension was a real turning point for this country. (eom) StevieM Yesterday #29
Regean azureblue 17 hrs ago #46
..... markie Yesterday #17
😢 Chasstev365 Yesterday #18
I was getting ready to post that song. wnylib 21 hrs ago #33
Wow...disappointing! electric_blue68 20 hrs ago #35
That was a bad day for me BeneteauBum Yesterday #19
My family and I watched the '68 DNC on vacation... electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #57
The 1971 Powell Memo finished kicking us off the cliff. Ralph Nader's assessment of what we've lost. jmbar2 Yesterday #20
I would say it began with the assassination of President Kennedy dlk Yesterday #21
Yup! mokeyz Yesterday #22
I remember it all..... 😔 electric_blue68 Yesterday #24
Thanks for sharing your vivid memories of those horrible times. erronis 21 hrs ago #31
Oh, hey, thanks. electric_blue68 21 hrs ago #32
My brother volunteered in RFK's office during the campaign. appleannie1 Yesterday #25
Woah... What a story. electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #56
The nation goes forward and the nation slips backward. CBHagman Yesterday #26
I am willing to be contrarian on this point. NNadir Yesterday #27
I would have hoped over time that the feminist movement would have schooled Sen Kennedy had he lived, and.... electric_blue68 12 hrs ago #58
Bush/Florida 2000 created Trump DemocracyForever Yesterday #30
Yep, the ruling class took over completely from that point. BlueTsunami2018 20 hrs ago #34
If Senator Kennedy hadn't become President, and remained on politics; he still would have been an Active Voice for... electric_blue68 20 hrs ago #36
Thats the date i felt i left my childhood behind. slightlv 19 hrs ago #37
I say it went down the wrong track a few months prior when the Tet Offensive started. Crowman2009 19 hrs ago #38
*Sigh* NBachers 19 hrs ago #39
On July 4th 1968 a WWII era submarine was anchored in Edgartown Harbor Martha's Vineyard Submariner 18 hrs ago #40
and this is why azureblue 17 hrs ago #48
Is that George Plimpton in the train window at the 2:25 mark? RPM 14 hrs ago #53
There was a whole movie of footage made about that train.... electric_blue68 12 hrs ago #59
I would say it start in the mid 50's when Eisenhower began sending standingtall 9 hrs ago #61
I was in Vietnam PCB66 7 hrs ago #62
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