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senseandsensibility

(26,217 posts) Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:23 PM Saturday

I have a question about the ICE shooting in Houston [View all]

Are people, regardless of their "status" required to stop for unidentified vehicles that are trying to get them to pull over?

I mean, it could be anybody. How are you supposed to know that it is law enforcement? The victim's son said that his father would definitely have pulled over if he knew it was law enforcement. He said they had discussed it and his father knew the danger of not complying with the authorities.

The congressman who represents this area of Houston appeared on CNN and said that no one in that neighborhood is going to pull over for just random plain cars aggressively trying to detain them. He said that too many people are carrying guns and it's too dangerous to do so.

I really think this question should be answered.

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I have a question about the ICE shooting in Houston [View all] senseandsensibility Saturday OP

I don't think there's any standard rec procedure bucolic_frolic Saturday #1

I think it's incumbent on them to use good judgement. LeftInTX Saturday #7

None of these really work. erronis Saturday #10

If there is an Amber Alert with your lic plate number, it is assumed you are the abductor. Same with APBs LeftInTX Saturday #11

unmarked police cars still use sirens and lights when pulling people over. cab67 Saturday #14

That happened to me, cab67 some_of_us_are_sane Saturday #21

Even if you had looked for safe spot to pull over, I doubt he would have harmed you. LeftInTX Yesterday #23

You seem to take the position that all of these stops are by legit LEO. erronis 21 hrs ago #28

Surely it's possible for anyone to purchase a siren & a portable red light snot 22 hrs ago #26

I'm afraid that is also true some_of_us_are_sane 21 hrs ago #27

drive slowly? cab67 Saturday #15

There are subtle ways to tell. But from what I see of ICE, their vehicles just look like run of the mill. LeftInTX Saturday #2

Given what happened after ICE pulled the van over, why would anyone want to do the same in the future? sop Saturday #3

That's true. I don't know too much about the shooting. LeftInTX Saturday #6

I'm not sure. To me that if the do NOT have the police type flashing lights, and it's umarked bluestarone Saturday #4

Were they wearing masks? RB77 Saturday #5

You're driving a car and being tailed by someone flashing lights. Can you tell if they are wearing masks? erronis Saturday #12

Here is this video. You have the right to verify. LeftInTX Saturday #8

+1 dalton99a Saturday #20

Yes... Definitively... hlthe2b Saturday #9

No rational person would pull over for an unmarked vehicle. cab67 Saturday #13

So they had nada, zilch identifiers? LeftInTX Saturday #16

That's my understanding. cab67 Yesterday #24

Ice thugsters are dumb and incapable of thinking flamingdem Saturday #17

Oh, they are capable of thinking. . thinking how they are going to niyad Saturday #19

Women, especially, are probably not going to pull over.. There have niyad Saturday #18

Here's video. It looks like 2 ICE vehicles followed him, then got in front of him and boxed him LeftInTX Saturday #22

Thanks for that senseandsensibility Yesterday #25