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117. Forcing their hand is not breaking the law

Reply to MikeyDi (Reply #116)

Sat Jul 18, 2026, 10:39 AM

3 hrs ago

Nobody was suggesting that the Governor break the law, simply that he force them to respond.

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Kentucky Governor Threatens To Go Nuclear On Mitch McConnell [View all] marmar Thursday OP

Good JBTaurus83 Thursday #1

I've decided: Beshear/Booker Chipper Chat Thursday #80

Never, ever, ever Booker. valleyrogue Thursday #85

Too nice to Graham Delarage Thursday #86

So your okay with a republican winning the KY seat onenote Thursday #93

I respect your opinion JBTaurus83 Thursday #100

Do it. Blue Owl Thursday #2

DO IT!!! 2naSalit Thursday #3

Do it, and don't wait! WestMichRad Thursday #4

Agree Tetrachloride Thursday #9

I liked Andy Beshear, but... RT Atlanta Thursday #5

What does this actually mean? There is no vacancy, he can't wish one into existence. tritsofme Thursday #15

Yes, there are steps to take. The first one is wnylib Thursday #19

That is not a step. Only the Senate can expel a member who is incapacitated. MikeyDi Thursday #21

OK. Point taken about the Senate being who can expel a member wnylib Thursday #47

I know there is a difference. Clearly there is. MikeyDi Thursday #51

That was just pure fantasy nonsense, demanding Beshear perform magical and impossible feats. tritsofme Thursday #29

Oh my. What a quandary. There is no vacancy, wnylib Thursday #50

He could be in a coma for the rest of his term, and no one could force him from office tritsofme Thursday #53

100 percent correct. onenote Thursday #60

It's not great. MikeyDi Thursday #55

No court is going to order McConnell to provide Beshear with a medical update. onenote Thursday #59

This was a great post JBTaurus83 Yesterday #107

Show up to the hospital JBTaurus83 Yesterday #104

And when the rehab center says no.....What then? MikeyDi Yesterday #111

Section 152 of the Kentucky Constitution Blumancru Thursday #92

Whether you are describing the Kentucky provision correctly or not, it's not relevant. tritsofme Thursday #94

Ok then what if the turtle is dead and that is being concealed? Blumancru Thursday #95

It would ultimately fall to the Senate to decide. If Beshear declared a vacancy and appointed a senator tritsofme Thursday #98

And would be right MikeyDi Thursday #102

Well I guess there is nothing to do Blumancru Thursday #103

With this declaration, Escape Thursday #6

it could force their hand at least themaguffin Thursday #42

His "declaration" was that "if" the seat is vacant, he'll fight to establish his right to fill the vacancy. onenote Thursday #63

And he just gave the Republicans a damn good reason to not come clean about hookaleft Thursday #83

Charles Booker won the Democratic primary to run in November. onenote Thursday #87

thanks hookaleft Thursday #89

Watch what they do, not what they say. MadMike47 Thursday #7

Get the show on the road!!! MontanaMama Thursday #8

He can't declare Mitch legally dead MikeyDi Thursday #10

No, he can't declare him legally dead. But he can wnylib Thursday #20

He can "demand" anything he wants. And his demands can be ignored. onenote Thursday #23

I would go a step further than you. MikeyDi Thursday #27

Good point. Another poster has told me that only the Senate wnylib Thursday #56

Expulsion is expulsion by any means. MikeyDi Thursday #61

So Beshear is just talking through his hat? How disappointing. wnylib Thursday #66

People are putting words in his mouth. Read his quote. MikeyDi Thursday #69

So for the time being, it means nothing and wnylib Thursday #78

I'm not sure why this is a problem. MikeyDi Thursday #79

I think that, since the staff and Republicans in Congress are wnylib Thursday #81

The answer to pretty much all of your questions: the only way to remove a Senator is for the Senate to expel him/her onenote Thursday #67

Beshear could go to court for an order of examination of McConnell. wnylib Thursday #33

And a court would deny his request. Besher has the burden of proof. And his appointment would be challenged in court onenote Thursday #34

No, he couldn't. He has no standing to make such a request. tritsofme Thursday #35

He can do neither of those things MikeyDi Thursday #37

and/or seek to have a guardian appointed for mitch (if he's still alive) RT Atlanta Thursday #40

There's no issue to "force". There is absolutely no basis for guardian/conservatorship tritsofme Thursday #44

And what standing does Beshear have to involve himself in Mitch's health decisions? MikeyDi Thursday #62

He could investigate "Abuse of a Corpse" Captain Zero Thursday #57

Assuming Mcconnell is in a Vegetative state, or DEAD...Perhaps, this is more to Ars Longa Thursday #11

Good for Gov. Andy Beshear! Please do this and end the stalemate FakeNoose Thursday #12

Put your gears into overdrive Andy ! KS Toronado Thursday #13

Waiting helps them orangecrush Thursday #14

Waiting...as opposed to what? There is no vacancy today, there is no action for him to take. tritsofme Thursday #17

'threatens'... Snackshack Thursday #16

JUST. FUCKING. DO. IT. Geechie Thursday #18

Do what? What do you want him to do? tritsofme Thursday #30

I'm sure others have answered your repeated question better, but how about for starters Geechie Yesterday #108

There would be no reason for Republicans to go to court. tritsofme Yesterday #109

they would have to prove there's no vacancy Geechie Yesterday #110

Prove to who? The fake senator just wouldn't be seated. tritsofme Yesterday #112

No they wouldn't MikeyDi Yesterday #114

While our side keeps arguing about not doing things because they're "impossible" Geechie 14 hrs ago #115

So we need to break the law too? MikeyDi 13 hrs ago #116

Forcing their hand is not breaking the law Geechie 3 hrs ago #117

By breaking the law MikeyDi 16 min ago #119

That's not remotely what will happen. MikeyDi Yesterday #113

He's been saying he'll challenge the law if the seat becomes vacant since the law was enacted in 2024 onenote Thursday #22

I don't think anyone clicked the video or read the post. MikeyDi Thursday #24

There are both US Constitution and State Constitution provisions in issue. onenote Thursday #32

I think it's an interesting question but that the power likely likes with the legislature MikeyDi Thursday #36

If Beshear initiates legislation, I expect he'd go to state court. If he acts and its challenged, onenote Thursday #38

"threatens to go nuclear" vs. "restates previously held position" Sympthsical Thursday #25

Clickbait also relies on no one reading or watching MikeyDi Thursday #28

Yep. onenote Thursday #68

Don't Threaten: DO IT NOW! Chasstev365 Thursday #26

Do what? tritsofme Thursday #31

Read my full post Chasstev365 Thursday #41

The governor has no power over this Sympthsical Thursday #43

There is no law that says the Governor could ask to see a hospitalized US Senator. Chasstev365 Thursday #46

My senator literally disappeared for months Sympthsical Thursday #52

I mean, this does seem to be one last area where we have some polity left in politics MikeyDi Thursday #54

;-{) THIS Goonch Thursday #39

Everybody saying, Just do it!!! MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #45

I mean it's fun to type in all caps, but who exactly has the legal authority to compel him to "prove" anything? tritsofme Thursday #49

Whatever compelled the MAGAts MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #74

You should do it MikeyDi Thursday #64

I didn't suggest he does MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #76

Agee with wyblib CALL THEIR BLUFF usonian Thursday #48

Like I said earlier, why don't you appoint a replacement? MikeyDi Thursday #65

I support this move LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #58

He should 100 percent say that MikeyDi Thursday #70

Beshear first said in 2024 he would challenge the law "IF" there is a vacancy. onenote Thursday #72

I personally believe that Beshear should win this challenge LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #82

I think he certainly has a chance of winning, but its not a slam dunk. onenote Thursday #88

This pleases me very much! QueerDuck Thursday #71

Why? MikeyDi Thursday #73

Hello. Goodbye. QueerDuck Thursday #75

What do you think is happening? marble falls Thursday #84

Beshear is repeating his stance since 2024 MikeyDi Thursday #90

And why do you think he is repeating that strategy? marble falls Thursday #91

Political and practical reasons MikeyDi Thursday #96

So he understands the situation JBTaurus83 Yesterday #106

With apologees to Emily Dickensen ... marble falls Thursday #77

This is all bluster oldmanlynn Thursday #97

He's not "blustering" at all, you're just reacting to clickbait. tritsofme Thursday #99

There is literally nothing he can do MikeyDi Thursday #101

You haven't even given him a chance. JBTaurus83 Yesterday #105

Always interesting to me when people hold Democrats responsible for the actions of Republicans. BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #118