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Delver Rootnose

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258. And I'm betting it won't....

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:20 PM

Jun 2016

...work out like you think it will. I can easily see someone legitimatly criticizing a democrat in a conservative district being squelched because 'you know he is the best we can get' in that district.

All I see these rule doing is rendering discussion to the usual pap of 'oooo look how evil the republican are' with little to no criticism of the flaws in the Democratic Party. You cannot argue for the need for systematic change without some claiming you are harming the party in the process. Hell the you have to support dems rule alone guts any negotiating power a person has. If a politician know you can't or won't withhold you support they don't have to listen to you. Unless you have lots of money to spread around.

And I certainly can see pushes for primary opponents being squelched as damaging to party.

All DU will end up being is a clap clap club and atm for politicians.
It certainly won't live up to the 'underground' part of its name.

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Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #335

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^^^This^^^ -none Jun 2016 #341

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There is no list. Skinner Jun 2016 #152

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The rule says Skinner Jun 2016 #187

And you risk being alerted... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #207

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Oh good now Joe Lieberman..... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #147

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Skinner, what about locks aquired during the primary process, will they reset back to 0? Logical Jun 2016 #156

Probably. Skinner Jun 2016 #161

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K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #162

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Problem with graphic content and context rule unc70 Jun 2016 #396

There should be a new LBN rule Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #181

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Post Olympic spoilers and see what happens... Phentex Jun 2016 #227

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Skinner: honest question katsy Jun 2016 #220

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The votes are tallied as a binary Yes/No Skinner Jun 2016 #232

ah, OK, got that. TygrBright Jun 2016 #239

Back to where Democrats support Democrats. What a relief!! demosincebirth Jun 2016 #230

Amazing concept, no? stevenleser Jun 2016 #233

Yup. demosincebirth Jun 2016 #244

and where liberals are persona non grata Doctor_J Jun 2016 #382

Ahh, I can hardly wait for June 16th...like a kid waiting for demosincebirth Jun 2016 #430

........... desmiller Jun 2016 #234

What are "Transparency pages"? thanks n/t left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #235

It shows your hidden posts. Skinner Jun 2016 #237

Thanks for the comedy! nolabels Jun 2016 #240

This is an excellent start, thank you very much steve2470 Jun 2016 #241

So apparently there will still be no penalty... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #247

Not correct. Skinner Jun 2016 #250

Oh. Thanks for clarifying that. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #251

Skinner- A possible suggestion for future consideration on the "jury results" issue. TygrBright Jun 2016 #253

Yet you will change nothing on DI? Where homophobia/etc stands (against TOS), anyone can serve, etc? The Straight Story Jun 2016 #254

Question: Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #255

this is why squirecam Jun 2016 #387

I am sorry, was I speaking to you? Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #407

Criticism does not mean insults. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #492

"registered for at least one year - more than 1,000 posts - active Star membership" -- 2 out of 3 ? eppur_se_muova Jun 2016 #257

Sounds good annabanana Jun 2016 #262

Everything looks good but I have a question. IrishEyes Jun 2016 #268

That is correct, but... Skinner Jun 2016 #271

Kinda defeats... ymetca Jun 2016 #270

Thank heavens! tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #274

Well, Most of This I Dig ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #275

This sounds good! brer cat Jun 2016 #283

I hope every criticism of Hillary isn't labelled sexist and flagged as such adigal Jun 2016 #288

I think... c-ville rook Jun 2016 #289

Comments and concerns Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #290

BtA, I have to say I agree with much of your post. Especially the part about transparency and seaglass Jun 2016 #344

This concern ^^^ Ms. Toad Jun 2016 #404

In an ideal world, alerts regarding bigotry would be sent to jurors from the group in question. stevenleser Jun 2016 #416

I think you're personally taking on a lot of grief Renew Deal Jun 2016 #291

The appeals process is going to be a huge pain in the ass for the admins. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #390

Out of curiosity...could you please comment on... xocet Jun 2016 #299

So DU is going to start supporting Democrats IronLionZion Jun 2016 #309

It's PUPPIES!!! warrprayer Jun 2016 #310

K&R gademocrat7 Jun 2016 #311

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #312

Love the new Jury System RockaFowler Jun 2016 #313

bookmarked lovemydog Jun 2016 #315

Presumptive nominee is not the nomiee Geronimoe Jun 2016 #317

No one is forcing you to support anyone. leftofcool Jun 2016 #330

Here is the link Geronimoe Jun 2016 #449

Thank You Skinner! Blue Idaho Jun 2016 #318

You'd better get a good lawyer!!! pamela Jun 2016 #322

lol Renew Deal Jun 2016 #326

Uh oh, that's 101 now... FSogol Jun 2016 #362

good, lets get on with supporting democrats MFM008 Jun 2016 #324

I appreciate all the work you guys one_voice Jun 2016 #328

Is there any way we could have a rule tavernier Jun 2016 #332

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #336

Suggestion re: Jury time frames Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #337

Enhhh... There've been times when I accepted a jury invite when browsing on my phone ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #369

I'll admit there have been a few when I had to go look at the thread to get context. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #451

Curious as to why, rather than instuting these rules earlier, you opted for a free for all cui bono Jun 2016 #338

I know some of you Sanders supporters believe this, I just can't see how you can delude yourself stevenleser Jun 2016 #343

If that were true, then all the more reason to enact the rules earlier so as not to show bias. cui bono Jun 2016 #420

Keep pretending you didn't control the juries and the overall tenor on DU. stevenleser Jun 2016 #421

LOL! Yes, THAT'S why JPR was created. WE WANT TOTAL CONTROL!!! cui bono Jun 2016 #424

You can call yourselves whatever you want, it's what you did. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #425

I forgot to mention what you did. Posted one of the two most vile OPs in DU history. cui bono Jun 2016 #465

I'm Jewish, so no, I posted nothing anti-semitic. Nice try though. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #482

So? Another DUer who is a PoC posted a racist's rant and an anti-semitic post. cui bono Jun 2016 #494

You made the allegation, you provide the link. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #499

1. We all know that's against the rules. 2. I'm no longer a star member so search is useless. cui bono Jun 2016 #505

I'm so glad you raised all of this nonsense. I've been waiting for the opportunity. stevenleser Jun 2016 #514

I think you just got your rear handed to you. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #515

Results... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #483

Thanks. cui bono Jun 2016 #507

"Progressives" who wanted to be able to JTFrog Jun 2016 #481

"The worst offenders were Sanders supporters?" I just can't see how you can delude yourself. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #518

This post is spot on. Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #474

Kudos to you! Good start. One small point . . . . Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #339

Question on "Don't bash Democratic public figures"... backscatter712 Jun 2016 #342

Thank you, Skinner. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #345

I appreciate the effort but do have concerns angrychair Jun 2016 #346

This sounds good to me wysi Jun 2016 #350

Can't wait! And thanks for everything. nolabear Jun 2016 #351

Okay. H2O Man Jun 2016 #356

No, this looks bad, H2O Man. Hissyspit Jun 2016 #470

Thank you. Kicking. littlemissmartypants Jun 2016 #358

Skinner, This is still a bit nebulous. floriduck Jun 2016 #359

Of course not. Skinner Jun 2016 #368

The Hill does lean right but I find their reporting on factual issues to be rather reliable. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #403

Hopefully civility will begin to return. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #363

K&R ... horseshoecrab Jun 2016 #365

Are all the current hides going to be erased and everyone starts with a clean slate or is everyone.. ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #370

That worked out so well the last time.... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #373

Everyone should start clean Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #441

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #460

argh, I will have to behave myself more Skittles Jun 2016 #378

Looking forward to a spirited but civil DU... VOX Jun 2016 #379

I say thank you also! Greywing Jun 2016 #386

So many of these are great but I hope you're not opening up a massive can of worms with this one Number23 Jun 2016 #385

K&R! SaschaHM Jun 2016 #388

THANK YOU! tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #391

I " Bend the Knee" Skinner... FarPoint Jun 2016 #395

Thanks Skinner JesterCS Jun 2016 #398

About juries Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #401

yep, cult-like reverence for dem public figures stupidicus Jun 2016 #409

Some of these rules are amazingly vaguely worded. Hissyspit Jun 2016 #473

indeed they are stupidicus Jun 2016 #488

This sounds great. Thanks. k&r DesertRat Jun 2016 #410

Don't believe in the word spoiler anymore though... PatrynXX Jun 2016 #417

The work that you three must have put into these changes is appreciated, but ... countryjake Jun 2016 #418

Thanks hopefully people will comply or just leave. Historic NY Jun 2016 #422

I do appreciate that you keep on trying. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #428

Thanks for the information. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #433

I've stayed out if the primary discussion intentionally. Socal31 Jun 2016 #434

Easy Peasy Except RW Talking Points billhicks76 Jun 2016 #446

I'm worried about this language in the rules, too. snot Jun 2016 #448

I support the Citizens United decision and also free trade. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #450

there will be a contested convention - hopemountain Jun 2016 #454

looks like I won't be posting on the election soon captainarizona Jun 2016 #456

So, in a nutshell, common sense? liberaltrucker Jun 2016 #457

What is the rule on avatars? pangaia Jun 2016 #459

I am excited Administration. I can do this and the opportunity it is giving to DU. Very exciting. seabeyond Jun 2016 #461

I won't be able to serve on a jury until 2 days after the general election... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #462

AGREE 100% flying-skeleton Jun 2016 #463

Not fair on the jury system Lunabell Jun 2016 #464

$1 gives you DU with no ads for a year Renew Deal Jun 2016 #477

You should add how many times someone has been on a jury back to profiles. cui bono Jun 2016 #466

Will the rules apply to "Groups"? cui bono Jun 2016 #467

Very Happy..... bobGandolf Jun 2016 #468

Very comprehensive. I look forward to implementation; jurying should be interesting. Hekate Jun 2016 #469

IF this part is followed DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #475

This is great, but has one flaw. athena Jun 2016 #479

Great point. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #496

Blue Dogs zipplewrath Jun 2016 #485

Links to or reposting of outside works zipplewrath Jun 2016 #486

I hope this works. Not to be a Debbie Downer but I doubt it will. Puglover Jun 2016 #487

DU3 is morphing back into DU2, just without moderators. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #490

Probably because every bit of transparency has been abused and provided much more drama stevenleser Jun 2016 #491

Rather than denying transparency... Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #493

Also, the amount of times someone served on a jury was eliminated. cui bono Jun 2016 #495

Exactly. Puglover Jun 2016 #498

Transition to Echo Chamber deaniac21 Jun 2016 #501

Pfffft. If by "Echo Chamber" you mean people who hate Democrats are going to be checked, bring on MADem Jun 2016 #503

I'm pretty sure they meant the right wing of the Democratic Party fawning over a center-corporatist cui bono Jun 2016 #506

Hey, deaniac21 Jun 2016 #516

Skinner, it is your site. saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #502

Whoa, so this place is becoming a full blown and super loyalist to the Democratic party type site. One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #508

Skinner, would you consider leaving the notifications of jury results? AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #509

Suggestion about members with many hides: set those at 5 or more back to 3 or 4 muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #510

This message was self-deleted by its author Miles Archer Jun 2016 #511

The inability to see entire thread randr Jun 2016 #522

After having over a week DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #523

I like the changes. LeftInTX Sep 2016 #524

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #525