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Hope22

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68. She made the decision for herself....and for Biden. That is the difference.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jan 2025

He was pushed from behind by many Dems who quite frankly stepped over the line. Pelosi always counted her votes behind a closed door. Never bringing a vote she wasn’t sure of. This time she blew it. Everyone who went to the media bleating about the president “needing to decide” needs to take some responsibility. We weren’t prepared to rush a new candidate plain and simple and we certainly should have had a clear idea of exactly how secure this election was going to be or be prepared to recount those questionable T wins that surprised even him. It’s complicated and sad but we need to get some young blood in there to drive the bus. It could happen but I think we, especially women and minorities, are in for a very intense @$$ kicking unfortunately! May we live long enough to get through this disaster and turn this boat around!.

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If Joe had brought his A game to the debate, he would have been the candidate andym Jan 2025 #1
I and everyone I know also think this. ananda Jan 2025 #5
People would have forgotten all about the stupid debate, LisaL Jan 2025 #36
I heard the debate, that was enough. The press sucks, but dem4decades Jan 2025 #42
In a rational world, the alarming headlines after the June debate Martin Eden Jan 2025 #54
They could have moved on, as in their usual 24-hour news cycle--- Jack Valentino Jan 2025 #61
YES, if that's what it took Butterflylady Jan 2025 #69
Good point. I was always going to support Biden... ananda Jan 2025 #50
Harris brought her A Game and kicked Trump's ass in the debate JI7 Jan 2025 #10
She did and it helped her so much that Trump declined a second debate andym Jan 2025 #11
And THIS is why I am STILL so sick....... MyOwnPeace Jan 2025 #15
He should have said shut up man, again. GreenWave Jan 2025 #12
Completely agree. mainer Jan 2025 #13
I think he was drugged. Emile Jan 2025 #17
If HW and Cheney DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #18
HW? GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #26
WBushie's Daddie DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #49
aka Poppy Bush msfiddlestix Jan 2025 #70
I don't think DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #74
Absolutely correct. I think it's because people here may not be old enough to remember how this shit show got started msfiddlestix Jan 2025 #75
No tRump without Bush 2000 election theft GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #58
How shallow people are if one debate costs us a great President. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #20
Pretty fucking shallow, unfortunately. 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #21
If Joe had neutered Trump the first year, Kamala could have won... lostnfound Jan 2025 #48
Do you remember that he was sick directly after that? Hope22 Jan 2025 #52
I think he was or had been sick at the debate andym Jan 2025 #66
Agree! Hope22 Jan 2025 #67
I suspect DeepWinter Jan 2025 #2
Jill is not alone in her disappointment. 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #3
And what if when you picked up that kleanex, it was full of holes..? jvill Jan 2025 #8
Republicans would have. LisaL Jan 2025 #35
The party threw Al Gore and we the people's votes away in 2000. GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #27
Shhhhh VBNMW Jan 2025 #40
Gleeful Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #4
Pelosi made it a race and saved us at least 3-4 Senate seats and more in the House BeyondGeography Jan 2025 #6
I don't believe that it saved us any seats. LisaL Jan 2025 #33
We won four Senate races in states that Harris lost BeyondGeography Jan 2025 #38
I don't think it's a safe assumption that Biden would have done worse than Harris. LisaL Jan 2025 #39
The day after the election was lost I had never seen Nancy Pelosi so distraught. Baitball Blogger Jan 2025 #7
to me its disappointing that we allowed the republicans to win samsingh Jan 2025 #9
I think it was the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Jan 2025 #22
Spot on. 2024 was a repeat of 1968 when anti-war Democrats didn't support Hubert Humphrey. C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #55
Yes, even on THIS site... Jack Valentino Jan 2025 #62
Trump credits TikTok for his win. That's where he has 15 million followers. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #71
W destroyed our democracy in 2000. GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #24
Jill was too close to see the obvious physical decline, apparently. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #14
What about tRump's clear mental decline? GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #25
Apparently Trump walks on water. LisaL Jan 2025 #32
Don't know what that has to do with Jill Biden's feelings about Pelosi. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #43
There were other comments GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #59
The primaries were OVER at that point, and there was no conceivable method Jack Valentino Jan 2025 #63
I know the primaries were over. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #65
Jill, chill. truthisfreedom Jan 2025 #16
Pelosi did the right thing Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #19
Disenfranchising 14 million dem party primary voters wasn't a good look GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #23
But he did run, and at the time Nancy and Co forced him to step down, LisaL Jan 2025 #31
Read some of the threads from around that time Shrek Jan 2025 #44
Well, that's certainly a divisive article... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #28
Exactly. truthisfreedom Jan 2025 #57
Family can't be objective and dispassionate about this, especially when their son's fate Wingus Dingus Jan 2025 #29
Thanks for what? LisaL Jan 2025 #30
She accomplished doing the right thing for the portion of the nation Wingus Dingus Jan 2025 #34
So, she accomplished nothing? LisaL Jan 2025 #37
Well, Nancy Didn't Cover RobinA Jan 2025 #64
I remember a few days before the election, Pelosi said on TV "We will win the house" sounding very certain of herself. Intractable Jan 2025 #41
In 2016 she said "Donald Trump will not be President. You can take that to the bank." Shrek Jan 2025 #45
She and almost everybody else said that, including many Republicans. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #46
It's not about friendship, Jill HereForTheParty Jan 2025 #47
I agree will Dr. Biden endgenocide Jan 2025 #51
If President Biden was too old to run, so was Nancy. donheld Jan 2025 #53
She stepped down as Speaker iemanja Jan 2025 #56
She made the decision for herself....and for Biden. That is the difference. Hope22 Jan 2025 #68
He decided himself iemanja Jan 2025 #72
I certainly am not going to continue down this line of discussion. Hope22 Jan 2025 #73
This 👆👆👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2025 #60
Pelosi did not do her job well kansasobama Jan 2025 #76
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