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Butterflylady

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69. YES, if that's what it took

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:41 PM

Jan 17

But no, that's not what happened.

Look what magas did when dump debated Kamala. Oh, they praised dump to no end and repeated his words over and over. I know we don't lie about things but sometimes we have to sacrifice some things. If he was to lose we would be in the same situation today as we are now. I think Jill Biden is correct.

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Jill Biden expresses disappointment with Pelosi: 'We were friends for 50 years' [View all] Polybius Jan 15 OP

If Joe had brought his A game to the debate, he would have been the candidate andym Jan 15 #1

I and everyone I know also think this. ananda Jan 15 #5

People would have forgotten all about the stupid debate, LisaL Jan 15 #36

I heard the debate, that was enough. The press sucks, but dem4decades Jan 15 #42

In a rational world, the alarming headlines after the June debate Martin Eden Jan 16 #54

They could have moved on, as in their usual 24-hour news cycle--- Jack Valentino Jan 16 #61

YES, if that's what it took Butterflylady Jan 17 #69

Good point. I was always going to support Biden... ananda Jan 15 #50

Harris brought her A Game and kicked Trump's ass in the debate JI7 Jan 15 #10

She did and it helped her so much that Trump declined a second debate andym Jan 15 #11

And THIS is why I am STILL so sick....... MyOwnPeace Jan 15 #15

He should have said shut up man, again. GreenWave Jan 15 #12

Completely agree. mainer Jan 15 #13

I think he was drugged. Emile Jan 15 #17

If HW and Cheney DENVERPOPS Jan 15 #18

HW? GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #26

WBushie's Daddie DENVERPOPS Jan 15 #49

aka Poppy Bush msfiddlestix Jan 17 #70

I don't think DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #74

Absolutely correct. I think it's because people here may not be old enough to remember how this shit show got started msfiddlestix Jan 17 #75

No tRump without Bush 2000 election theft GoreWon2000 Jan 16 #58

How shallow people are if one debate costs us a great President. travelingthrulife Jan 15 #20

Pretty fucking shallow, unfortunately. 3catwoman3 Jan 15 #21

If Joe had neutered Trump the first year, Kamala could have won... lostnfound Jan 15 #48

Do you remember that he was sick directly after that? Hope22 Jan 15 #52

I think he was or had been sick at the debate andym Jan 17 #66

Agree! Hope22 Jan 17 #67

I suspect DeepWinter Jan 15 #2

Jill is not alone in her disappointment. 3catwoman3 Jan 15 #3

And what if when you picked up that kleanex, it was full of holes..? jvill Jan 15 #8

Republicans would have. LisaL Jan 15 #35

The party threw Al Gore and we the people's votes away in 2000. GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #27

Shhhhh VBNMW Jan 15 #40

Gleeful Prairie Gates Jan 15 #4

Pelosi made it a race and saved us at least 3-4 Senate seats and more in the House BeyondGeography Jan 15 #6

I don't believe that it saved us any seats. LisaL Jan 15 #33

We won four Senate races in states that Harris lost BeyondGeography Jan 15 #38

I don't think it's a safe assumption that Biden would have done worse than Harris. LisaL Jan 15 #39

The day after the election was lost I had never seen Nancy Pelosi so distraught. Baitball Blogger Jan 15 #7

to me its disappointing that we allowed the republicans to win samsingh Jan 15 #9

I think it was the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Jan 15 #22

Spot on. 2024 was a repeat of 1968 when anti-war Democrats didn't support Hubert Humphrey. C0RI0LANUS Jan 16 #55

Yes, even on THIS site... Jack Valentino Jan 16 #62

Trump credits TikTok for his win. That's where he has 15 million followers. LeftInTX Jan 17 #71

W destroyed our democracy in 2000. GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #24

Jill was too close to see the obvious physical decline, apparently. maxsolomon Jan 15 #14

What about tRump's clear mental decline? GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #25

Apparently Trump walks on water. LisaL Jan 15 #32

Don't know what that has to do with Jill Biden's feelings about Pelosi. maxsolomon Jan 15 #43

There were other comments GoreWon2000 Jan 16 #59

The primaries were OVER at that point, and there was no conceivable method Jack Valentino Jan 16 #63

I know the primaries were over. maxsolomon Jan 17 #65

Jill, chill. truthisfreedom Jan 15 #16

Pelosi did the right thing Jose Garcia Jan 15 #19

Disenfranchising 14 million dem party primary voters wasn't a good look GoreWon2000 Jan 15 #23

But he did run, and at the time Nancy and Co forced him to step down, LisaL Jan 15 #31

Read some of the threads from around that time Shrek Jan 15 #44

Well, that's certainly a divisive article... Think. Again. Jan 15 #28

Exactly. truthisfreedom Jan 16 #57

Family can't be objective and dispassionate about this, especially when their son's fate Wingus Dingus Jan 15 #29

Thanks for what? LisaL Jan 15 #30

She accomplished doing the right thing for the portion of the nation Wingus Dingus Jan 15 #34

So, she accomplished nothing? LisaL Jan 15 #37

Well, Nancy Didn't Cover RobinA Jan 17 #64

I remember a few days before the election, Pelosi said on TV "We will win the house" sounding very certain of herself. Intractable Jan 15 #41

In 2016 she said "Donald Trump will not be President. You can take that to the bank." Shrek Jan 15 #45

She and almost everybody else said that, including many Republicans. n/t totodeinhere Jan 15 #46

It's not about friendship, Jill HereForTheParty Jan 15 #47

I agree will Dr. Biden endgenocide Jan 15 #51

If President Biden was too old to run, so was Nancy. donheld Jan 15 #53

She stepped down as Speaker iemanja Jan 16 #56

She made the decision for herself....and for Biden. That is the difference. Hope22 Jan 17 #68

He decided himself iemanja Jan 17 #72

I certainly am not going to continue down this line of discussion. Hope22 Jan 17 #73

This 👆👆👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 16 #60

Pelosi did not do her job well kansasobama Jan 17 #76