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56. Yes, it's absolutely ridiculous. Native Americans, the indigenous people here should sit in judgement...

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Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:03 PM

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on who should be citizens here.

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"Excluding Indians": Trump admin questions Native Americans' birthright citizenship in court [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 23 OP

This has to end... Lovie777 Jan 23 #1

The shithole administration the comrades... Lovie777 Jan 23 #3

Yes, it's actually worse than I originally feared. NotHardly Jan 23 #6

It didn't need to start.. tirebiter Jan 23 #12

Not even three days in office and Trump has already created more chaos than he did his entire first term. sop Jan 23 #29

He wants to bdamomma Jan 23 #33

There's the old adage about "Don't blame the puppet." LastDemocratInSC Jan 23 #43

But puppets aren't willing and have no agency.... Trueblue Texan Jan 23 #71

Yes, it's absolutely ridiculous. Native Americans, the indigenous people here should sit in judgement... brush Jan 23 #56

So their argument is "they changed the wording, so it must mean the same as the old wording" muriel_volestrangler Jan 23 #2

I can't get the "jurisdiction" thing underpants Jan 23 #28

Well, this is why the change in wording means something muriel_volestrangler Jan 23 #31

Thanks that's what I thought. underpants Jan 23 #46

They're going back to the 1866 Civil Rights Act and the groundwork of the 14th Amendment, which excluded Native American LeftInTX Jan 23 #49

👍 underpants Jan 23 #50

I hope it makes sense. They're trying to argue that people born to non-citizens are non-citizens. LeftInTX Jan 23 #52

I don't understand the argument. TomSlick Jan 23 #75

The heritage foundation lawyer was trying to make an argument why he thinks non-citizens LeftInTX Jan 24 #78

On June 2, 1924, Congress enacted the Indian Citizenship Act, which granted citizenship to all Native Americans born in LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #95

" I was trying to wrap my head around their thinking" Ray Bruns Jan 24 #89

Yep. underpants Jan 24 #90

Seems to me that if undocumented immigrants aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States... AZSkiffyGeek Jan 24 #97

I'm remembering that. underpants Jan 24 #98

Where do they think they will deport them Bettie Jan 23 #4

He'll put border checkpoints around all the reservations VMA131Marine Jan 23 #15

The Native Americans may bdamomma Jan 23 #34

I would not stop them also-the white man took their land and have the nerve to treat them Stargazer99 Jan 23 #69

genius! LymphocyteLover Jan 23 #36

He will make them walk back across the Bering Strait. Irish_Dem Jan 23 #30

That is what was intended. Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #72

My mind is running through all the scenes of the most violent "Indian" attacks on racist white characters hlthe2b Jan 23 #5

JFC! (apologies) ANOTHER Reason You -Drumphf- are BEYOND Disgusting! electric_blue68 Jan 23 #7

Ooh boy, I think I see where this is going GusBob Jan 23 #8

25% of our county is native by population GusBob Jan 23 #9

Wasn't there a report deRien Jan 23 #10

It was a bad poll. Skewed for clickbait... don't believe it. nt. druidity33 Jan 23 #26

very hard to believe-- they traditionally are very Dem LymphocyteLover Jan 23 #37

According to the Brookings Institute Natives went for Harris mtngirl47 Jan 23 #51

Thanks deRien Jan 23 #55

Ok cool qazplm135 Jan 23 #11

Tell me again on how Trump won the Native.... Botany Jan 23 #13

Trump is still mad about all the Native American casinos VMA131Marine Jan 23 #14

That sounds right Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #18

I remember seeing a video of that. underpants Jan 23 #20

He was, is and always will be an obnoxious asshole. mountain grammy Jan 23 #68

Makes me wonder what that spray tan POS will do with the NFL Bengus81 Jan 23 #58

Because they didn't screw the pooch the way he did with his casinos. eppur_se_muova Jan 23 #76

Tell me again on how Trump won the Native Botany Jan 23 #16

Did he? Not in my state and we went for Trump by a very small margin. 33taw Jan 23 #17

He didn't JI7 Jan 23 #19

I don't necessarily buy that reporting since it was moniss Jan 23 #22

He didn't. There was a bad exit poll. Ocelot II Jan 23 #27

White supremacists much??? people Jan 23 #21

Native Americans born on reservations were not LeftInTX Jan 23 #23

Still calling native peoples "Indians." And "who wants to pay 40,000 to bury a Mexican"? He is a domestic terrorist. Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #24

Shit hole country with a piece of shit leader. Solly Mack Jan 23 #25

He's doing all for bdamomma Jan 23 #35

I'm sick over all the people he is harming, and all the people he will harm as time goes by. Solly Mack Jan 23 #39

You know Solly bdamomma Jan 23 #40

I hope people stand up for the good. Solly Mack Jan 23 #41

Insane. What is his point. Native Americans are NATIVE. Here before any other race. Fla Dem Jan 23 #32

Under Trump, Native Americans aren't Americans. No wonder he's an Andrew Jackson fan. surfered Jan 23 #38

WTAF? BobsYourUncle Jan 23 #42

Pretty sure Native Americans already know they aren't "citizens" and never have been. malthaussen Jan 23 #44

Native Americans have been citizens since 1924, under a law signed by Calvin Coolidge: Liberty Belle Jan 24 #77

You didn't read my post, did you? malthaussen Jan 24 #92

I suppose we should deport them back to Siberia, then? n/t malthaussen Jan 23 #45

So, Trump is declaring that Native Americans are NOT US citizens?? Is this what he is saying? riversedge Jan 23 #47

They just hate everybody. n/t PatrickforB Jan 23 #48

Native Treaty Act of 1924 Squeaky41 Jan 23 #53

Yes! This was likely someone trying to justify that children born to non citizens were not granted citizenship by the LeftInTX Jan 23 #67

I am not a lawyer probably very far from It thinkingagain Jan 23 #54

Remember though....don't use the "H" word when it comes to Trump Bengus81 Jan 23 #57

including native Hawaiians i hope YoshidaYui Jan 23 #59

Are all natural born children American citizens? No... there is one exception. Children of diplomats. Norrrm Jan 23 #60

Maybe Rump is trying to get in Kristi Noem's pants. As far as I know, the puppy killer is still banned from seven out of LaMouffette Jan 23 #61

When they're here in the US they are not subject to a foreign power unless they are working here for said foreign power. cstanleytech Jan 23 #62

It's madness. Four more years of madness? NameAlreadyTaken Jan 23 #63

This is just not going to fly. efhmc Jan 23 #64

Ok. Deport Markwayne Mullin dalton99a Jan 23 #65

It's clear that he is going to come after indigenous people moniss Jan 23 #66

Trump wants to deport Senator Warren. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 23 #70

Excluding Indians is not excluding Native Americans Sparky 1 Jan 23 #73

This case is about Native Americans iemanja Jan 24 #80

I know that, thanks. Just pointing out that the person calling them Indians is an ignoramus. Sparky 1 Jan 24 #85

Actually iemanja Jan 24 #86

Many Natives call themselves "Indians" obamanut2012 Jan 24 #93

Deflection DallasNE Jan 23 #74

I thought I'd lost the capacity to be shocked iemanja Jan 24 #79

He's citing old laws against Native Americans to justify Trump's EO against non-citizens. LeftInTX Jan 24 #82

"The Salon article fails to mention that Native Americans were granted full citizenship in 1924 BumRushDaShow Jan 24 #87

Yes, I think Salon's headline could have been less dramatic. LeftInTX Jan 24 #91

Trail time? moondust Jan 24 #81

Alright, if they are going to get literal: DFW Jan 24 #83

Four years of chaos and cruelty perdita9 Jan 24 #84

No, no, no. Fuck this shit. Paladin Jan 24 #88

Neal Katyal is not impressed with this silly argument LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #94

The legal justification for TFG's Birthright Citizenship Executive Order is sad and wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #96