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In reply to the discussion: GOP megabill would hit vehicle owners with new annual charge [View all]progree
(12,008 posts)16. Ordinary hybrids are 10% of new car sales. EV''s + plug in hybrids + ordinary hybrids are 21% of new sales
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63904
These are subject to the $100/year or $200/year tax.
It's infuriating to me that there's no incentive to drive less -- a vehicle owner pays the same whether they drive 1,000 miles per year or 30,000 miles/year.
It's also odd that ordinary hybrids (those that aren't plug-in's) are charged extra (compared to traditional gasoline vehicles) even though every single joule of energy used to move the car and power the auxiliaries (heating, air conditioning, lights etc.) comes from the gasoline. Regular hybrids are simply relatively high efficiency gasoline vehicles that use regenerative braking and a secondary electric motor (whose electricity comes from the gasoline engine or regenerative braking) to make them more gasoline-efficient overall. But in a Republican world, all that efficiency is bad.
Google: "why are regular hybrid vehicles efficient?"
These are subject to the $100/year or $200/year tax.
It's infuriating to me that there's no incentive to drive less -- a vehicle owner pays the same whether they drive 1,000 miles per year or 30,000 miles/year.
It's also odd that ordinary hybrids (those that aren't plug-in's) are charged extra (compared to traditional gasoline vehicles) even though every single joule of energy used to move the car and power the auxiliaries (heating, air conditioning, lights etc.) comes from the gasoline. Regular hybrids are simply relatively high efficiency gasoline vehicles that use regenerative braking and a secondary electric motor (whose electricity comes from the gasoline engine or regenerative braking) to make them more gasoline-efficient overall. But in a Republican world, all that efficiency is bad.
Google: "why are regular hybrid vehicles efficient?"
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I think it's a distraction. Throw it out; it won't fly, but the chumps didn't see what we snuck through
mpcamb
Apr 30
#60
And how are they going to collect these fees? Not every car owner is a taxpayer, and not every taxpayer is a
SWBTATTReg
Apr 29
#4
It says that we'd be "moving away from the Federal fuel tax". TOTAL LIE and they know it
Bengus81
May 1
#68
So $180 a year extra for owning an electric vehicle, which is the tax on 978 gallons
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 29
#12
Yep...we have that State tax in Kansas,along with the "registration" which can be higher
Bengus81
Apr 30
#63
Ordinary hybrids are 10% of new car sales. EV''s + plug in hybrids + ordinary hybrids are 21% of new sales
progree
Apr 29
#16
oooh. tax cuts......oh, my fee went up again. bait + swith. amerikkkans are stupid. taxesfees
pansypoo53219
Apr 29
#24
Remember when the Repiglickens used to refer to our team as "tax & spend liberals"?
Montauk6
Apr 29
#30
And their former Messiah/Guru/Yogi Ronald Reagan popularized that saying about the libs
Montauk6
Apr 30
#65
I Think The Republican Base Would Happily Give Up Their Social Security and Medicare...
TomCADem
Apr 30
#33
I heard, I think a couple weeks ago, that the State Police portion was going to be fixed
BumRushDaShow
Apr 30
#50