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47. If they do cut the federal gas tax

Wed Apr 30, 2025, 08:46 AM

Apr 30

and install the $20 per car fee it essentially gives fuel burning cars a free federal pass for road use.
This while charging alternative options extra money.
Would this also apply to commercial diesel trucks?
Road damage is largely a function of vehicle weight. A motorcycle doesn't damage the roads as much as a regular car. An EV weighs more and causes more damage. The large SUVs cause even more per mile. This new plan means no charge for any damage weight and mileage driven will cause.
I am in favour of some kind of charge for EVs to cover some of the costs for the road damage.
The best way is for all vehicle to be charged with some formulation of a vehicle milage fee based on miles travelled and vehicle weight. Pay for what you use and the cost of the upkeep.

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GOP megabill would hit vehicle owners with new annual charge [View all] BumRushDaShow Apr 29 OP

I will ship the fascists 20 dollars worth of pennies. nt ImNotGod Apr 29 #1

Insider tip: Send nickels instead oswaldactedalone Apr 29 #22

Musk must be livid, right? lapfog_1 Apr 29 #2

I think it's a distraction. Throw it out; it won't fly, but the chumps didn't see what we snuck through mpcamb Apr 30 #60

This is going to save us money, how, exactly? Initech Apr 29 #3

And how are they going to collect these fees? Not every car owner is a taxpayer, and not every taxpayer is a SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #4

Just a guess, but it would probably appear as a line item cloudbase Apr 29 #9

Yup. Easy Peasy. Mr. Evil Apr 29 #14

Hopefully, 100% Nasruddin Apr 29 #23

It wouldn't surprise me if states added that fee on top of the tax. cloudbase Apr 30 #39

Is that what they already do with federal gas taxes? MichMan Apr 30 #32

The text of the released draft makes it clear. Igel Apr 29 #19

Doesn't this require the states to play ball? GregariousGroundhog Apr 30 #54

Yes. Igel Apr 30 #61

I saw Reagan judo-chop with that argument one time. Ursus Rex May 1 #66

And where does the buffoon plan dweller Apr 29 #5

State vehicle registration fee pass through. nt kelly1mm Apr 30 #51

What a batshit, stupid idea nt wolfie001 Apr 29 #6

This will fly like a lead balloon with all those ... Tarzanrock Apr 29 #7

must preserve internal combustion Eugene Apr 29 #8

Based on 280 million registered vehicles in the USA, JMCKUSICK Apr 29 #10

It wouldn't surprise me to pay both Marthe48 Apr 29 #11

It's not eliminating the gas tax, it's in addition muriel_volestrangler Apr 29 #13

It says that we'd be "moving away from the Federal fuel tax". TOTAL LIE and they know it Bengus81 May 1 #68

So $180 a year extra for owning an electric vehicle, which is the tax on 978 gallons muriel_volestrangler Apr 29 #12

You misread... regnaD kciN Apr 29 #27

On top of state personal property tax. underpants Apr 29 #29

Yep...we have that State tax in Kansas,along with the "registration" which can be higher Bengus81 Apr 30 #63

Ah, so slightly worse (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #44

Virginia already has something like this underpants Apr 29 #28

just remember, if your car is a tesla, it is lying to you.... getagrip_already Apr 30 #53

More taxes on working people so billionaires can get tax cuts! SunSeeker Apr 29 #15

I don't know if I can handle all this ... sheshe2 Apr 30 #34

And a huge tax on many retirees that drive little...like myself. Bengus81 Apr 30 #62

Ordinary hybrids are 10% of new car sales. EV''s + plug in hybrids + ordinary hybrids are 21% of new sales progree Apr 29 #16

Yep. I have a hybrid. The battery assists the engine. underpants Apr 29 #26

This doesn't bode well for the already rapidly aging American highway system. flashman13 Apr 29 #17

They hate non-regressive taxes. Guess what type these are? nt kelly1mm Apr 30 #52

As soon as he describes something as "beautiful", PatSeg Apr 29 #18

Some states already tax if you have an electric vehicle or hybrid. tetedur Apr 29 #20

Always the OPPOSITE of what good sense would offer. nt Exp Apr 29 #21

oooh. tax cuts......oh, my fee went up again. bait + swith. amerikkkans are stupid. taxesfees pansypoo53219 Apr 29 #24

They're flailing around now, trying to come up with something, anything Warpy Apr 29 #25

Remember when the Repiglickens used to refer to our team as "tax & spend liberals"? Montauk6 Apr 29 #30

Yeah, tax and spend Bob_in_VA Apr 30 #31

And their former Messiah/Guru/Yogi Ronald Reagan popularized that saying about the libs Montauk6 Apr 30 #65

I Think The Republican Base Would Happily Give Up Their Social Security and Medicare... TomCADem Apr 30 #33

Financially stew-pud Grins Apr 30 #35

What difference? Aussie105 Apr 30 #36

"Solution? Windows got bricked in." BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #37

Why you need to be taxed on Old Crank Apr 30 #38

Registration cost here has almost tripled over the last 5 years bucolic_frolic Apr 30 #40

I *think* you are in PA? BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #43

Yes, that's correct. bucolic_frolic Apr 30 #45

My 2-year was $90 last week BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #46

The big problem with the gas tax money is that the PA State Police are also Deminpenn Apr 30 #49

I heard, I think a couple weeks ago, that the State Police portion was going to be fixed BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #50

Public projects are sometimes or always posted for public viewing bucolic_frolic Apr 30 #58

That county fee has been in effect for awhile now Deminpenn Apr 30 #48

I only started doing the registration "online" in 2023 BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #55

As an owner of 2 Chevy EVs this doesn't scare me. Screw 'em. 634-5789 Apr 30 #41

Another Republican Tax Historic NY Apr 30 #42

Their trying to word it like the Fed fuel tax would drop off. Total 100% fucking LIE. Bengus81 May 1 #67

If they do cut the federal gas tax Old Crank Apr 30 #47

Fee? It's a tax JustAnotherGen Apr 30 #56

Repubs, the party of small government. area51 Apr 30 #57

This isn't a bad idea, to be honest NickB79 Apr 30 #59

"one big beautiful bill." tonekat Apr 30 #64

US House Republicans drop federal $20 vehicle registration fee, back $250 EV fee Eugene May 1 #69

"The proposal includes $12.5 billion for air traffic control reform efforts, down from $15 billion in an early draft." BumRushDaShow May 1 #70