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OrwellwasRight

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68. I read the article. And summarized what I read.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:01 PM
Nov 2025

There really isn’t anything much in the deal.

Guaranteeing people the pay and jobs they had before the shutdown (yes, a good thing), but that is just the “status quo ante,” meaning what people would have had anyway, had there been no shut down. And a vague promise of a vote on subsidies, which I guess you can argue has potential, but any successful action is remote in time and not guaranteed to pass either house of Congress, much less be signed by the President. In your view, what have I left out?

Don’t get me wrong, I would not oppose a real deal in which the Dems got something real and tangible even if it what short of their goal of a one year extension of the current level of ACA subsidies. They even could have traded for something else *meaningful* in the health care space and spun that as an achievement.

But this particular deal looks like a full cave in and will be spun as a full cave in. One reason I am angry about it is that this kind of capitulating behavior is what makes those who do not follow politics and government as closely as we on DU do feel that the Dems are feckless cowards. IMHO: We cannot afford to feed that perception if we want to win future elections.

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Literally in tears angrychair Nov 2025 #1
Good luck getting people to vote especially young people vercetti2021 Nov 2025 #14
It's a gut punch, particularly after the momentum of Tuesday. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #27
Fuck this sucks. Initech Nov 2025 #2
Guess the Farm and Grocery lobbies pulled some strings IbogaProject Nov 2025 #3
And the travel and supply-chain businesses too nitpicked Nov 2025 #43
The overly rich again IbogaProject Nov 2025 #63
What the "deal" looks like progree Nov 2025 #4
This will also fund Dep of Agriculture Deminpenn Nov 2025 #6
Is a single word of your post to be backed by immediate legislation Bluetus Nov 2025 #7
For the record on Schumer progree Nov 2025 #15
I don't dispute that the 8 traitors knocked Schumer's legs from under him. But that just shows Bluetus Nov 2025 #23
This was not him having his legs knocked out. This was protecting those who have elections coming up. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #53
What??? Makes no sense. Bluetus Nov 2025 #55
You're not disagreeing with me. Not sure what you're saying makes no sense. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #73
What doesn't make sense to me is ... Bluetus Nov 2025 #83
Yes. Again, we're not disagreeing. Schumer (or someone) wanted this. Rumor is that the airline industry Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #84
Agreed Bluetus Nov 2025 #87
Schumer orchestrated this chernabogg Nov 2025 #28
They're still playing by outdated norms. Circa 2025, all Dems will feel the heat, regardless. nt Blasphemer Nov 2025 #34
In 2020ish, we learned that it only takes 2 assholes to make people hate the entire Dem Party Bluetus Nov 2025 #50
Conveniently, all those supporting it are not facing an election soon. Such leadership. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #52
Correct - Schumer Opposes this deal KatyBR Nov 2025 #64
Unfortunately he doesn't stand for election until 2028 Bluetus Nov 2025 #81
It's my understanding that the 3 individual agency appropriations bills Deminpenn Nov 2025 #37
You suspect *WHAT* will pass? Bluetus Nov 2025 #51
First thing that came to mind reading the OP... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2025 #42
All of it is vague promises. Autumn Nov 2025 #75
Thune promised a vote? Now saying it will be in Dec. MY ASS! Bengus81 Nov 2025 #48
Stupidity squared! lark Nov 2025 #49
I feel your pain and your son's Jspur Nov 2025 #54
No shit popsdenver Nov 2025 #71
I agree with you 100 Jspur Nov 2025 #78
I hear you J popsdenver Nov 2025 #79
They are definitely going to attempt to destroy the remaining Jspur Nov 2025 #82
Schumer aint leading nothing quakerboy Nov 2025 #76
Absolutely nauseating. bagimin Nov 2025 #5
It's still four votes short. James48 Nov 2025 #8
What's taking so long? Polybius Nov 2025 #9
Actually, someone else just said the last 4 are Republicans Polybius Nov 2025 #10
Oh no. I'm heartbroken 💔 catrose Nov 2025 #11
59-40 now Polybius Nov 2025 #13
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #12
Not a 'bunch' of spineless people, just the 8 dems necessary to pass the bill... Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #17
Na i will vercetti2021 Nov 2025 #18
Disappointed, but it couldn't go on forever... On the bright side, the HOUSE WILL HAVE TO RE-OPEN to Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #16
After the House votes to release the files, is there any commitment that the Senate will pass it? Is there even a 24601 Nov 2025 #21
Fuck no, and no. Volaris Nov 2025 #31
No. And it won't happen. Lucy...... football. Autumn Nov 2025 #77
"consideration" berksdem Nov 2025 #80
Epic fail. Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #19
Agreed vercetti2021 Nov 2025 #20
While I agree with that in principle.... AZ8theist Nov 2025 #32
We have that now, apparently Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #59
Still easier to gain influence within the Democratic party than to spin up a viable 3rd party 0rganism Nov 2025 #74
Bunch of centrist sellouts blue_jay Nov 2025 #22
None of whom are up for election next year. Sneederbunk Nov 2025 #26
Silver lining manicdem Nov 2025 #24
But SNAP was Dump's hardball negotiation tactic AdamGG Nov 2025 #35
Exactly that's what people don't understand Jspur Nov 2025 #57
It also damages the argument re: who was to blame for the shutdown FBaggins Nov 2025 #58
If it's not SNAP it will be some other core thing that regular people need AdamGG Nov 2025 #88
It's over Polybius Nov 2025 #25
ANYONE KNOW popsdenver Nov 2025 #72
Sure Polybius Nov 2025 #89
Democrats? ArizonaLib Nov 2025 #29
Because they're traitors. Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #60
So basically the deal is OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #30
No, read the details from AP story Deminpenn Nov 2025 #39
What are the details in that which you summarise as just "no" to all OrwellwasRight wrote? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #45
I read the article. And summarized what I read. OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #68
Cue the call for primaries... pecosbob Nov 2025 #33
These traitorous senators better have ... flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #36
So...starving people, gutting everything, all for nothing. I've been a dem my whole life, pounded pavement, phone airmid Nov 2025 #38
I am so sorry :( moonscape Nov 2025 #62
I'm sorry 😔 MustLoveBeagles Nov 2025 #65
One more positive thing is Deminpenn Nov 2025 #40
So now millions of people will be forced to go without healthcare because the premiums are too high. Lonestarblue Nov 2025 #41
Exactly ArizonaLib Nov 2025 #46
I wonder how close those 8 senators are to lobbyists and is there a correlation Mr. Sparkle Nov 2025 #44
Oh he definitely backed this. chernabogg Nov 2025 #47
Good points, Welcome to DU ! Mr. Sparkle Nov 2025 #69
Been here since 2004 at least. chernabogg Nov 2025 #70
Collaboration is now called "breakthrough". Miguelito Loveless Nov 2025 #56
I'm not too worried about his. Republicans will renege on any deal anyway. Ray Bruns Nov 2025 #61
After hear Mike Johnsons comment about he will NOT commit to bring ACA vote to the floor bluestarone Nov 2025 #66
"bipartisan breakthrough", I question that . republianmushroom Nov 2025 #67
Bipartisan my dick UT_democrat Nov 2025 #85
They own it weissmam Nov 2025 #86
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