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Bluetus

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19. Of course it can be copyrighted.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 07:34 PM
Jan 17

Now, if you are saying that Spotify is creating AI content themselves, then they could be the copyright holder.

If you use Suno for free, you agree that Suno has the copyright. But if you pay the Suno subscription, Suno grants the copyright to you.

Any copyright can be challenged as being a ripoff of prior art. That doesn't change with AI. But the kind of pap that is produced by Suno is so much like all the rest of the mindless pap that was ripped off from prior generations of musicians, it is pretty tough to win these infringement cases.

It can actually be argued that technologies like Suno can include guard rails that ensure their ripoffs pass legal muster. In other words, Suno may actually be less of a ripoff than what human artists have been doing to each other basically forever. Bach "borrowed" heavily from Vivaldi and others. And countless successors tried to capture that perfect Bach fugue style. Nothing new here, except that it is a lot easier to steal music today when there are 3 chords and the "melodies" are mostly just diatonic meanderings on the same 4 notes without any changes to key center or rhythmic interest.

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Good for them!!!!! SheltieLover Jan 14 #1
I wish them well. It is fraught. Bluetus Jan 14 #2
Because those tools are trained illegally on stolen intellectual property, any use of them is unethical highplainsdem Jan 14 #3
And btw, what you wrote about AI being used at all levels of the music industry "for a long time" is wrong and highplainsdem Jan 14 #4
By "long time" I mean 5+ years Bluetus Jan 14 #10
I don't believe that AI music taking over is inevitable - that's propaganda from the AI companies. And highplainsdem Jan 15 #11
Just to be clear, my use of the AI material Bluetus Jan 15 #15
You're still likely to end up encouraging some of those people to use AI. highplainsdem Jan 15 #16
No competent lawyer files a brief written by AI Bluetus Jan 15 #17
No ethical person should be using generative AI, period, for anything, unless forced to do so by a highplainsdem Jan 17 #21
What highplainsdem said jfz9580m Jan 14 #7
Now, if only Spotify and the other streaming platforms... LudwigPastorius Jan 14 #5
Very cool. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 14 #6
I absolutely can't stand ai so called music. tazcat Jan 14 #8
I am a happy CAMPER and have been for years. Tikki Jan 14 #9
Jan 22, 2026 Edits jfz9580m Jan 15 #12
Why aren't they all doing this? FakeNoose Jan 15 #13
Spotify makes more money from AI-generated music. It can't be copyrighted, so they don't have to highplainsdem Jan 15 #14
Well I get that FakeNoose Jan 15 #18
Of course it can be copyrighted. Bluetus Jan 17 #19
No. That's not true, and they don't claim copyright. See this: highplainsdem Jan 17 #20
I don't think you understand copyrights. Bluetus Jan 17 #22
You're still 100% wrong, because you ignored this paragraph: highplainsdem Jan 17 #23
What you are citing is only an opinion by the copyright office and that is not binding on anything. Bluetus Jan 17 #24
You can claim a partial copyright if you did any of the work and can prove it. I doubt applying a little highplainsdem Jan 17 #25
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