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47. People lie. Await the evidence to pass judgement.

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 06:43 PM

Jul 6

Unless you're able to peer into people's hearts and minds. And while you're doing that, got any hot stock picks to share?

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Exclusive: Woman who dated Graham Platner says he sexually assaulted her [View all] pat_k Jul 6 OP

Guess we'll be seeing a lot more of Susan Collins... Marie Marie Jul 6 #1

What's Janet Mills doing these days? Vinca Jul 6 #2

She said to write her in after the last set of obamanut2012 Jul 6 #3

David Costello would be a better pick. pat_k Jul 6 #9

2024 and Kamala all over again. It's a bit too late for that now. paleotn Jul 6 #35

Hope your wrong. I think there's time. pat_k Jul 6 #58

--- especially since a whole lot of Maine voters are anxious to vote Democratic Jack Valentino Jul 6 #91

He seems very appealling and progressive enough MadameButterfly Jul 7 #125

It sounds like Troy Jackson may be more of a contender, along with a couple others pat_k Jul 7 #158

Being unelectable. Mainers aren't happy with her. paleotn Jul 6 #34

Way to go Maine! awesomerwb1 Jul 6 #4

Excuse me... 2naSalit Jul 6 #10

My thought exactly. drray23 Jul 6 #11

I grew up... 2naSalit Jul 6 #13

Hard same. I had a post removed for suggesting exactly this would happen. nt Blasphemer Jul 6 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author 2naSalit Jul 6 #17

Damn, 2na... COL Mustard Jul 6 #70

Just because people suggested this would happen doesn't make it true. nt CozyMystery Jul 7 #116

Wonder if this latest one got a big check. paleotn Jul 6 #36

Seriously? niyad Jul 6 #57

I don't know for sure and neither do you. paleotn Jul 6 #59

If Republicans were behind this radical noodle Jul 7 #129

I appreciate your posts and figure you're due some insight into my meaning. paleotn Jul 6 #67

I understand what you are saying. But, as a number of posts and OP's, niyad Jul 6 #71

I get it, but Republicans are extremely good at this... paleotn Jul 6 #73

Stories have come out that Gary Hart was framed MadameButterfly Jul 7 #136

Those were all my thoughts, too, paleotn. BComplex Jul 6 #92

The timing is certainly political. hadEnuf Jul 6 #85

Hang in there 2naSalit! Cha Jul 6 #63

Thank you! 2naSalit Jul 6 #78

It is starting to feel like Edwards vs. Duke 1991 LA governor's race. The Grand Illuminist Jul 7 #126

Nobody is blaming you personally, and no one should be blaming Mainers in general MadameButterfly Jul 7 #127

He should have been vetted... 2naSalit Jul 7 #128

Not a shiny new object. A person who expressed ideas that spoke to many people MadameButterfly Jul 7 #137

I believe her; I just wish she had come forth BEFORE the Maine Primary Chasstev365 Jul 6 #5

My guess is that she was hoping she wouldn't have to... Blasphemer Jul 6 #15

There was not question what the outcome of the primary would be MadameButterfly Jul 7 #138

She did. Just not with the rape allegation. Bok_Tukalo Jul 6 #26

Or she was holding out for more cash. paleotn Jul 6 #38

All the reason not to believe her. paleotn Jul 6 #37

Been around long enough to see both Karl Rove and Roger Stone in action Bengus81 Jul 7 #122

She spoke to NYT for the story that broke before the primary mcar Jul 6 #62

Where's the proof? Why believe someone you don't know about something you don't have evidence for? nt CozyMystery Jul 7 #117

i believe the records of her telling other people at the time MadameButterfly Jul 7 #140

So much for Maine. He's toast. CousinIT Jul 6 #6

You are wrong MadameButterfly Jul 7 #141

Democrats have to take 8 out 11 Senate seats PCB66 Wednesday #165

I mean given his checkered past and the previous incidents drray23 Jul 6 #7

So how did it work out with Eric Swalwell? MadameButterfly Jul 7 #142

I hope she has overcome her concern of being known as a rape vicitm Raven123 Jul 6 #8

I'm not sure it was the media... AloeVera Jul 6 #27

Somebody was going to talk her into this MadameButterfly Jul 7 #143

Yes. He was going to be taken down one way or another. AloeVera Jul 7 #159

"And someone who is the antithesis installed" EX500rider Jul 7 #161

There will be forces trying to install a moderate MadameButterfly Jul 7 #162

More exagerated bullshit, ie. Al Franken LiberalLovinLug Jul 6 #12

So Believe Women is over sarisataka Jul 6 #16

Sound like... 2naSalit Jul 6 #18

Conditional on the truth. LiberalLovinLug Jul 6 #19

Has truth been determined? sarisataka Jul 6 #20

No it hasn't. LiberalLovinLug Jul 6 #22

Do you vote in Maine? yardwork Jul 6 #23

Do you? paleotn Jul 6 #44

Nope. Thats why I'm not telling them what to do. yardwork Jul 6 #76

Nor am I. paleotn Jul 6 #83

I don't live in Maine MadameButterfly Jul 7 #145

No argument from me. yardwork Jul 7 #151

You seem to think it has. From where does that info come from? paleotn Jul 6 #43

My quote is from the poster I replied to sarisataka Jul 6 #46

Glad to hear it. So am I. paleotn Jul 6 #51

I try not to jump on bandwagons sarisataka Jul 6 #54

That's a good way to put it. paleotn Jul 6 #55

He's lost the support of even Progressives MadameButterfly Jul 7 #146

Apparently. sheshe2 Jul 6 #21

I believe evidence. Got any? paleotn Jul 6 #41

Women lie? sarisataka Jul 6 #45

People lie. Await the evidence to pass judgement. paleotn Jul 6 #47

Sorry no stock picks sarisataka Jul 6 #49

I don't always believe anyone. BComplex Jul 6 #94

I hope your last line is sincere sarisataka Jul 6 #96

What kind of question is that? BComplex Jul 6 #99

Do you think she is lying? sarisataka Jul 7 #100

It's too late for another candidate to garner the support enough to win. BComplex Jul 7 #102

So it doesn't matter what he has done sarisataka Jul 7 #104

Um... BComplex Jul 7 #106

No I don't know her sarisataka Jul 7 #107

I get what you're saying. BComplex Jul 7 #109

I have not seen anything on TV sarisataka Jul 7 #110

Here is a part of the NYT article from back during the first republican round BComplex Jul 7 #134

From what I have read sarisataka Jul 7 #147

What do you want manicdem Jul 6 #32

According to the Poster in #65 it is. MichMan Jul 7 #118

Conclusion premature. Up until this latest accusation, I would agree that... pat_k Jul 6 #74

The accusations against Platner are much different from those against Franken. yardwork Jul 6 #77

I agree with both of your points. spooky3 Jul 6 #89

The main difference is that Franken was already elected. yardwork Jul 7 #121

Yes, Al should not have resigned. MadameButterfly Jul 7 #144

No...he should have because a group of Dems threw him under the bus Bengus81 Jul 7 #152

ANd he regrets it and MadameButterfly Jul 7 #163

The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavior,, Escape Jul 6 #24

He was gonna anyway if he won the election n/t Polybius Jul 6 #61

You have that on good authority no doubt. AloeVera Jul 6 #66

I never suggested he is a Republican plant Polybius Jul 7 #130

I have had qualms (expressed here) from the first, but honestly, if I had been sitting by Molly Jong Fast hlthe2b Jul 6 #25

I actually see the timing as a positive and it gives her more credibility... Blasphemer Jul 6 #28

No. It's too late for a second candidate to galvanize the support that Platner BComplex Jul 7 #101

I would be curious to see what the NYT reporters say. Did she elaborate or not? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 6 #60

See? Nobody has considered her previous story, but they're BComplex Jul 7 #108

She didn't say there that he broke in? Seems like that would have been damn Bengus81 Jul 7 #119

Those were my feelings about Molly... BComplex Jul 6 #98

As an aside, I'm kind of over panels period. Alice B. Jul 7 #155

On the cable tv shows, MSNBC is kind of the ONLY place anyone with two BComplex Wednesday #164

True that. Alice B. Wednesday #166

Platner needs to drop out this afternoon WSHazel Jul 6 #29

If I was Platner, I would be so tired of the BS that I'd be seriously wanting to drop out BComplex Jul 7 #105

He raped a woman WSHazel Jul 7 #112

And you have proof of that without any doubt?d BComplex Jul 7 #135

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard for getting convicted of a crime WSHazel Jul 7 #150

The ruling class knives have been out for him from the door. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 6 #30

David Costello pat_k Jul 6 #31

David Costello or Troy Jackson MadameButterfly Jul 7 #148

Interesting timing. mzmolly Jul 6 #33

The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #39

Who would replace him? iemanja Jul 6 #48

Not Mills. Shenna Bellows, Troy Jackson, Nirav Shah, Jordan Wood are mentioned by NYT pat_k Jul 6 #79

I hope they do find someone iemanja Jul 7 #114

Mission Accomplished...High fiving over at the WH,and laughing how easy it is Bengus81 Jul 7 #124

I want to see other information. NewEnglandAutumn Jul 6 #40

I am with you. But I fear a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes way beyond the bullshit that brought down pat_k Jul 6 #50

What a distaster iemanja Jul 6 #42

Dozens of posts to this thread could be alerted on al bupp Jul 6 #52

You mean like how people can say almost anything about Fetterman? MichMan Jul 6 #81

You think Fetterman is a Democrat? When they go the DINO route we have the Bengus81 Jul 7 #132

Yes I do MichMan Jul 7 #156

*sigh* Blue Owl Jul 6 #53

They have options pat_k Jul 6 #56

Amazing all of this comes out when Platner runs and he is leading in the polls. Timing means nothing. AZLD4Candidate Jul 6 #64

Dems always seem to just give up when something like this happens Dangling0826 Jul 6 #65

So, you will only believe it if there is a video of him actually raping her? MichMan Jul 6 #84

pretty much!! Dangling0826 Jul 6 #86

I'm getting these Al Franken fake vibes about this story kimbutgar Jul 6 #68

I am with you. But a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes beyond the bullshit that brought down Franken. pat_k Jul 6 #72

If he was behind Collins by five points there would be crickets........... Bengus81 Jul 7 #120

Platner bromeando Jul 6 #69

Allegations against Democrats are fatal to Candidates pwb Jul 6 #75

Rapists have no place in leadership roles Quanta Jul 6 #80

Every Trumpublican condemning Platner must be confronted on ignoring more, and more egregious, accusations against Trump pat_k Jul 6 #82

THIS Bengus81 Jul 7 #123

We are not going to get to the bottom of anything hadEnuf Jul 6 #87

Planter is the only person who can beat Collins duckworth969 Jul 6 #88

I disagree that he is the only one who can beat Collins. pat_k Jul 7 #111

Appreciate your post duckworth969 Jul 7 #153

Spot on, IMHO peggysue2 Jul 7 #139

If this were a GOP candidate, they'd say tonekat Jul 6 #90

Going with Rachel and Chris Hayes' this time kiranon Jul 6 #93

Vote D flamingdem Jul 6 #95

Can We Use This As A Moment to Reopen the Kavanaugh Investigation? DrFunkenstein Jul 6 #97

A Joan Barron? usonian Jul 7 #103

I'm just glad this waited until AFTER Taylor Swift's Wedding. flvegan Jul 7 #113

What? What does't her wedding have to do with any of this? LeftInTX Jul 7 #115

The amount of DUers still supporting this dude is appalling obamanut2012 Jul 7 #133

Absolutely. The right move is to use this to come out ALL.GUNS BLAZING against GOP assaulters DrFunkenstein Jul 7 #149

Vote D no matter who? WinningAgain Jul 7 #131

So, here's the ethical quandry tonekat Jul 7 #154

Platner isn't the only one who can beat Collins pat_k Jul 7 #157

Now please can Dems ALL dump Morris Katz JoFerret Jul 7 #160