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59. I don't know for sure and neither do you.

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:09 PM

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Unless you've got some mystical pipeline to info no one but the accused and accuser has, it's all conjecture. And very helpful conjecture for Susan Collins AFTER the Dem primary. She made accusations prior. Why did she not come completely clean then? She had little reason not to. All I'm saying is stranger things have happened in politics. It would certainly be more than worth it for some if Republicans retained control of the Senate. Very, very much worth it.

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Exclusive: Woman who dated Graham Platner says he sexually assaulted her [View all] pat_k Yesterday OP

Guess we'll be seeing a lot more of Susan Collins... Marie Marie Yesterday #1

What's Janet Mills doing these days? Vinca Yesterday #2

She said to write her in after the last set of obamanut2012 Yesterday #3

David Costello would be a better pick. pat_k Yesterday #9

2024 and Kamala all over again. It's a bit too late for that now. paleotn Yesterday #35

Hope your wrong. I think there's time. pat_k Yesterday #58

--- especially since a whole lot of Maine voters are anxious to vote Democratic Jack Valentino 21 hrs ago #91

He seems very appealling and progressive enough MadameButterfly 12 hrs ago #125

It sounds like Troy Jackson may be more of a contender, along with a couple others pat_k 4 hrs ago #158

Being unelectable. Mainers aren't happy with her. paleotn Yesterday #34

Way to go Maine! awesomerwb1 Yesterday #4

Excuse me... 2naSalit Yesterday #10

My thought exactly. drray23 Yesterday #11

I grew up... 2naSalit Yesterday #13

Hard same. I had a post removed for suggesting exactly this would happen. nt Blasphemer Yesterday #14

This message was self-deleted by its author 2naSalit Yesterday #17

Damn, 2na... COL Mustard 23 hrs ago #70

Just because people suggested this would happen doesn't make it true. nt CozyMystery 15 hrs ago #116

Wonder if this latest one got a big check. paleotn Yesterday #36

Seriously? niyad Yesterday #57

I don't know for sure and neither do you. paleotn Yesterday #59

If Republicans were behind this radical noodle 11 hrs ago #129

I appreciate your posts and figure you're due some insight into my meaning. paleotn 23 hrs ago #67

I understand what you are saying. But, as a number of posts and OP's, niyad 23 hrs ago #71

I get it, but Republicans are extremely good at this... paleotn 22 hrs ago #73

Stories have come out that Gary Hart was framed MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #136

Those were all my thoughts, too, paleotn. BComplex 20 hrs ago #92

The timing is certainly political. hadEnuf 21 hrs ago #85

Hang in there 2naSalit! Cha 23 hrs ago #63

Thank you! 2naSalit 22 hrs ago #78

It is starting to feel like Edwards vs. Duke 1991 LA governor's race. The Grand Illuminist 12 hrs ago #126

Nobody is blaming you personally, and no one should be blaming Mainers in general MadameButterfly 11 hrs ago #127

He should have been vetted... 2naSalit 11 hrs ago #128

Not a shiny new object. A person who expressed ideas that spoke to many people MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #137

I believe her; I just wish she had come forth BEFORE the Maine Primary Chasstev365 Yesterday #5

My guess is that she was hoping she wouldn't have to... Blasphemer Yesterday #15

There was not question what the outcome of the primary would be MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #138

She did. Just not with the rape allegation. Bok_Tukalo Yesterday #26

Or she was holding out for more cash. paleotn Yesterday #38

All the reason not to believe her. paleotn Yesterday #37

Been around long enough to see both Karl Rove and Roger Stone in action Bengus81 12 hrs ago #122

She spoke to NYT for the story that broke before the primary mcar 23 hrs ago #62

Where's the proof? Why believe someone you don't know about something you don't have evidence for? nt CozyMystery 15 hrs ago #117

i believe the records of her telling other people at the time MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #140

So much for Maine. He's toast. CousinIT Yesterday #6

You are wrong MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #141

I mean given his checkered past and the previous incidents drray23 Yesterday #7

So how did it work out with Eric Swalwell? MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #142

I hope she has overcome her concern of being known as a rape vicitm Raven123 Yesterday #8

I'm not sure it was the media... AloeVera Yesterday #27

Somebody was going to talk her into this MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #143

Yes. He was going to be taken down one way or another. AloeVera 2 hrs ago #159

More exagerated bullshit, ie. Al Franken LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #12

So Believe Women is over sarisataka Yesterday #16

Sound like... 2naSalit Yesterday #18

Conditional on the truth. LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #19

Has truth been determined? sarisataka Yesterday #20

No it hasn't. LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #22

Do you vote in Maine? yardwork Yesterday #23

Do you? paleotn Yesterday #44

Nope. Thats why I'm not telling them what to do. yardwork 22 hrs ago #76

Nor am I. paleotn 22 hrs ago #83

I don't live in Maine MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #145

No argument from me. yardwork 6 hrs ago #151

You seem to think it has. From where does that info come from? paleotn Yesterday #43

My quote is from the poster I replied to sarisataka Yesterday #46

Glad to hear it. So am I. paleotn Yesterday #51

I try not to jump on bandwagons sarisataka Yesterday #54

That's a good way to put it. paleotn Yesterday #55

He's lost the support of even Progressives MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #146

Apparently. sheshe2 Yesterday #21

I believe evidence. Got any? paleotn Yesterday #41

Women lie? sarisataka Yesterday #45

People lie. Await the evidence to pass judgement. paleotn Yesterday #47

Sorry no stock picks sarisataka Yesterday #49

I don't always believe anyone. BComplex 20 hrs ago #94

I hope your last line is sincere sarisataka 20 hrs ago #96

What kind of question is that? BComplex 19 hrs ago #99

Do you think she is lying? sarisataka 19 hrs ago #100

It's too late for another candidate to garner the support enough to win. BComplex 19 hrs ago #102

So it doesn't matter what he has done sarisataka 19 hrs ago #104

Um... BComplex 19 hrs ago #106

No I don't know her sarisataka 19 hrs ago #107

I get what you're saying. BComplex 19 hrs ago #109

I have not seen anything on TV sarisataka 19 hrs ago #110

Here is a part of the NYT article from back during the first republican round BComplex 8 hrs ago #134

From what I have read sarisataka 7 hrs ago #147

What do you want manicdem Yesterday #32

According to the Poster in #65 it is. MichMan 14 hrs ago #118

Conclusion premature. Up until this latest accusation, I would agree that... pat_k 22 hrs ago #74

The accusations against Platner are much different from those against Franken. yardwork 22 hrs ago #77

I agree with both of your points. spooky3 21 hrs ago #89

The main difference is that Franken was already elected. yardwork 12 hrs ago #121

Yes, Al should not have resigned. MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #144

No...he should have because a group of Dems threw him under the bus Bengus81 6 hrs ago #152

The Democratic Party doesn't allow this kind of behavior,, Escape Yesterday #24

He was gonna anyway if he won the election n/t Polybius 23 hrs ago #61

You have that on good authority no doubt. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #66

I never suggested he is a Republican plant Polybius 10 hrs ago #130

I have had qualms (expressed here) from the first, but honestly, if I had been sitting by Molly Jong Fast hlthe2b Yesterday #25

I actually see the timing as a positive and it gives her more credibility... Blasphemer Yesterday #28

No. It's too late for a second candidate to galvanize the support that Platner BComplex 19 hrs ago #101

I would be curious to see what the NYT reporters say. Did she elaborate or not? Hassin Bin Sober Yesterday #60

See? Nobody has considered her previous story, but they're BComplex 19 hrs ago #108

She didn't say there that he broke in? Seems like that would have been damn Bengus81 12 hrs ago #119

Those were my feelings about Molly... BComplex 20 hrs ago #98

As an aside, I'm kind of over panels period. Alice B. 5 hrs ago #155

Platner needs to drop out this afternoon WSHazel Yesterday #29

If I was Platner, I would be so tired of the BS that I'd be seriously wanting to drop out BComplex 19 hrs ago #105

He raped a woman WSHazel 18 hrs ago #112

And you have proof of that without any doubt?d BComplex 8 hrs ago #135

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard for getting convicted of a crime WSHazel 6 hrs ago #150

The ruling class knives have been out for him from the door. BlueTsunami2018 Yesterday #30

David Costello pat_k Yesterday #31

David Costello or Troy Jackson MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #148

Interesting timing. mzmolly Yesterday #33

The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #39

Who would replace him? iemanja Yesterday #48

Not Mills. Shenna Bellows, Troy Jackson, Nirav Shah, Jordan Wood are mentioned by NYT pat_k 22 hrs ago #79

I hope they do find someone iemanja 18 hrs ago #114

Mission Accomplished...High fiving over at the WH,and laughing how easy it is Bengus81 12 hrs ago #124

I want to see other information. NewEnglandAutumn Yesterday #40

I am with you. But I fear a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes way beyond the bullshit that brought down pat_k Yesterday #50

What a distaster iemanja Yesterday #42

Dozens of posts to this thread could be alerted on al bupp Yesterday #52

You mean like how people can say almost anything about Fetterman? MichMan 22 hrs ago #81

You think Fetterman is a Democrat? When they go the DINO route we have the Bengus81 9 hrs ago #132

Yes I do MichMan 4 hrs ago #156

*sigh* Blue Owl Yesterday #53

They have options pat_k Yesterday #56

Amazing all of this comes out when Platner runs and he is leading in the polls. Timing means nothing. AZLD4Candidate 23 hrs ago #64

Dems always seem to just give up when something like this happens Dangling0826 23 hrs ago #65

So, you will only believe it if there is a video of him actually raping her? MichMan 22 hrs ago #84

pretty much!! Dangling0826 21 hrs ago #86

I'm getting these Al Franken fake vibes about this story kimbutgar 23 hrs ago #68

I am with you. But a specific accusation of drunken sexual assault goes beyond the bullshit that brought down Franken. pat_k 23 hrs ago #72

If he was behind Collins by five points there would be crickets........... Bengus81 12 hrs ago #120

Platner bromeando 23 hrs ago #69

Allegations against Democrats are fatal to Candidates pwb 22 hrs ago #75

Rapists have no place in leadership roles Quanta 22 hrs ago #80

Every Trumpublican condemning Platner must be confronted on ignoring more, and more egregious, accusations against Trump pat_k 22 hrs ago #82

THIS Bengus81 12 hrs ago #123

We are not going to get to the bottom of anything hadEnuf 21 hrs ago #87

Planter is the only person who can beat Collins duckworth969 21 hrs ago #88

I disagree that he is the only one who can beat Collins. pat_k 18 hrs ago #111

Appreciate your post duckworth969 5 hrs ago #153

Spot on, IMHO peggysue2 7 hrs ago #139

If this were a GOP candidate, they'd say tonekat 21 hrs ago #90

Going with Rachel and Chris Hayes' this time kiranon 20 hrs ago #93

Vote D flamingdem 20 hrs ago #95

Can We Use This As A Moment to Reopen the Kavanaugh Investigation? DrFunkenstein 20 hrs ago #97

A Joan Barron? usonian 19 hrs ago #103

I'm just glad this waited until AFTER Taylor Swift's Wedding. flvegan 18 hrs ago #113

What? What does't her wedding have to do with any of this? LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #115

The amount of DUers still supporting this dude is appalling obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #133

Absolutely. The right move is to use this to come out ALL.GUNS BLAZING against GOP assaulters DrFunkenstein 6 hrs ago #149

Vote D no matter who? WinningAgain 9 hrs ago #131

So, here's the ethical quandry tonekat 5 hrs ago #154

Platner isn't the only one who can beat Collins pat_k 4 hrs ago #157