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moniss

(6,436 posts)
61. I would say the
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jan 30

heart breaking "Sayonara" from 1957 about love forbidden by the American military after WW2 and during Korea.

Also I would have said "A Farewell to Arms" but none of the adaptations do the novel justice. As a teen reading Hemingway in school most of us boys trudged along through it while our teacher did recaps and tried to make us see bigger things. As we neared the last chapter we thought we could see relief in sight.

But as the chapter unfolded and the last pages were read we became something other than the people we were when the novel started. To this day one of the most powerful things I've ever read.

The 1932 film was OK but still didn't get it. The 1957 remake by Selznick was atrocious. In fact this was Hemingway's reaction when Selznick announced Hemingway would be paid $50,000 of the profits: " Unhappy with Selznick's decision to cast his nearly 40-year-old wife as a character intended to be in her early 20s, he replied: "If, by some chance your movie, which features the 38-year-old Mrs. Selznick as 24-year-old Catherine Barkley, does succeed in earning $50,000, I suggest that you take all of that money down to the local bank, have it converted to nickels, and then shove them up your ass until they come out your mouth." Papa had a way with words and didn't like what Hollywood did to his novels.

Hollywood could not find a director who was able to portray the emotional development and loss on the part of a man that Hemingway portrayed in the novel. Fine lines between hard and soft, bitter and yearning and then in the end.........all gone so fast. It's difficult but on so many levels Hemingway packed so much into that novel all set in the way things were. For men and women. For war and casualties that go beyond what is incurred on the battlefield.

He said he rewrote the last page 39 times until he felt he had it right. I believe him.

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The Enemy Below BOSSHOG Jan 29 #1
Thank you BOSSHOG. My second choice would have been the Bridge Over the River Kwai. debm55 Jan 29 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Jan 30 #56
Great movie, yes. I love submarine movies. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #57
And books BOSSHOG Jan 30 #59
Yes I am a WWII buff too. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #63
Casablanca! MIButterfly Jan 29 #3
Thank you very much MIButterfly--a classic, debm55 Jan 29 #4
Here's looking at you, kid! MIButterfly Jan 29 #6
Thank you very much, MIButterfly . Excellent movie. debm55 Saturday #102
Absolutely. I can't imagine anything else which might compare. soldierant Jan 29 #21
+1 Bristlecone Saturday #103
'A bridge too far' Omnipresent Jan 29 #5
Thank you Omnipresent. debm55 Jan 29 #7
Either The Longest Day or Midway. House of Roberts Jan 29 #8
Thank you House of Roberts. I have seen two--Midway and the Battle of the Bulge. Classic movies. debm55 Jan 29 #10
The Sound of Music. debm55 Jan 29 #9
"Glory" some_of_us_are_sane Jan 29 #11
Thank you very much, I agree, some_of_us_are_sane_ debm55 Jan 29 #12
Apocalypse Now.nt Phoenix61 Jan 29 #13
Thank you very much for your selection., Phoenix61 debm55 Jan 29 #16
Coming Home dixiegrrrrl Jan 29 #14
YES, I haven"t seem in a long time. Thank you dixiegrrrl debm55 Jan 29 #17
Saving Private Ryan, 1917, and All Quiet on the Western Front (the new one). Elessar Zappa Jan 29 #15
Two great selections. Thank you Elessar Zappa. debm55 Jan 29 #18
Casablanca and Mr. Roberts, but ... Dorothy V Jan 29 #19
Dorothy V....... Upthevibe Jan 30 #22
Thank you very much Dorothy V. Yes it is a masterpeice. debm55 Jan 30 #47
Casablanca MustLoveBeagles Jan 29 #20
Thank you MustLoveBeagles. It is a classic. debm55 Jan 30 #46
debm55............. Upthevibe Jan 30 #23
Thank you very much Upthevibe. Excellent selections. debm55 Jan 30 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Upthevibe Jan 30 #24
"Bridge On The River Kwai," "Mrs. Miniver," "In Which We Serve," "Saving Private Ryan." (nt) Paladin Jan 30 #25
Great selections Paladin. debm55 Jan 30 #44
Mrs. Miniver! Lulu KC Friday #71
Have you heard Winston Churchill's famous comment re "Mrs. Miniver"? Paladin Friday #82
I don't think I had heard that Lulu KC Friday #86
Casablanca #1, Best Years of Our Lives #2 Raven123 Jan 30 #26
Thank you Raven123 for your selections. debm55 Jan 30 #43
Testament of Youth Vegan4life Jan 30 #27
Thank you very much for your selections, Vegan4life. debm55 Jan 30 #42
Purple Hearts DemMedic Jan 30 #28
Thank you very much DemMedic. debm55 Jan 30 #41
I like the original "All Quiet on the Western Front"" Walleye Jan 30 #29
Thank you very much Walleye for your selection. debm55 Jan 30 #40
Heaven Knows Mr. Allison, with Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr woodsprite Jan 30 #30
Thank you very much woodsprite. Great film debm55 Jan 30 #39
"in harms way" rampartd Jan 30 #31
Thank you rampartd. Your selections are classics. debm55 Jan 30 #38
"Watch on the Rhine" with Bette Davis and Paul Lukas. brush Jan 30 #32
Thank you very much, brush. That sounds interesting. Going to look for it. debm55 Jan 30 #37
All Quiet on the Western Front Mike Nelson Jan 30 #33
Thank you very much Mike Nelson. debm55 Jan 30 #36
Tora Tora Tora catbyte Jan 30 #34
Thank you so much catbyte. I remember watching it on television once a year. My Fil was a Marine in WWII stationed on debm55 Jan 30 #35
Maybe my dad knew him. catbyte Jan 30 #53
catbyte. I just asked Rich my husband. He said that the only major island his dad wasn't on was Guadalcanal. However he debm55 Friday #77
I grew up worshipping WW II marines. Was your dad at Pelelieu and Okinawa too? Borogove Friday #80
My FIL was on both. I hope you don:t mind me stepping in. TY Borogove. debm55 Friday #83
Your father-in-law was an incredibly brave man. Borogove Friday #88
Yes, he was. He wasn't on Iwo Jima, though. catbyte Friday #91
catbyte. I asked Rich about it and he said they more then likely knew each other. debm55 Saturday #95
I feel the same way, catbyte. Borogove Saturday #105
Kelly's Heros is kind of a fun one. Hotler Jan 30 #48
Thank you very much, Hotler. You have a great selection there. debm55 Jan 30 #49
Two movies LogDog75 Jan 30 #50
Thank you very much for your selections. debm55 Friday #66
Bridge on the River Kwai OLDMDDEM Jan 30 #51
One of my all-time favorite movies. LoisB Jan 30 #54
Mine two. debm55 Friday #67
Agree with you OLDMDDEM debm55 Friday #68
The Great Escape LoisB Jan 30 #52
Thank you LoisB. I always watch it when it is on. debm55 Friday #73
Hope And Glory, 1987, I watch it on DVD at least once a year. irisblue Jan 30 #55
Thank you very much irisblue. I have not seen , but the trailer seems interesting. I will see if I can get it on my debm55 Friday #74
M*A*S*H ms liberty Jan 30 #58
Thank you ms liberty. Agree with you debm55 Friday #75
Here are mine jrandom421 Jan 30 #60
Thank you very much for your terrific selection. jrandom421 debm55 Friday #79
I would say the moniss Jan 30 #61
Thank you so much, moniss. What a beautiful post that is written from the heart. debm55 Friday #81
Red October, Fury SWBTATTReg Jan 30 #62
Thank you very much, SWBTATTReg debm55 Friday #72
Mrs. Miniver Lulu KC Jan 30 #64
Thank you very much. Lulu KC debm55 Friday #70
Casablanca ArnoldLayne Friday #65
Thank you very much ArnoldLayne. I agree. debm55 Friday #69
Saving Private Ryan - Mellish Hand to Hand combat - death scene OAITW r.2.0 Friday #76
I would always skip the very beginning when they were on the beach. It is an intense movie. debm55 Friday #87
This scene was in a 2nd floor building. A German vs. an American, knife-to-knife personal combat. OAITW r.2.0 Friday #89
Thank you OAITW r.2.0 Agree very heartbreaking scene. debm55 Saturday #101
Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" WheelWalker Friday #78
I have to agree with you, WheelWalker very heartbreaking. I watched it once and never again. debm55 Friday #84
I thought George C. Scott was magnificent in Patton. Borogove Friday #85
Thank you very much, Borogove. He was debm55 Saturday #100
Schindler's List Jeebo Friday #90
Jeebo, thank you for your wonderful list. of movies. Some I have seen as my husband was a History channel addict before debm55 Saturday #99
Battleship Potemkin is one of my favorite silent films. Jeebo Saturday #107
yes, I agree, Thank you Jeebo, It is on YouTube. debm55 Saturday #108
"I Was A Male War Bride". Cary Grant (need I say more) and Ann Sheridan. niyad Friday #92
Thank you very much niyad. for your selections. debm55 Saturday #97
Hard to disagree with any of these Wifes husband Friday #93
Agree. Wofes husband debm55 Saturday #98
"Battleground" boonecreek Saturday #94
Thank you very much for your selections boonecreek. debm55 Saturday #96
"A Call To Spy" dugog55 Saturday #104
Thank you for sharing with us. The movie sounds very interesting. I will look for it., dugog55 debm55 Saturday #106
Das Boot Submariner Saturday #109
Thank you very much Submariner.for your choice. debm55 Saturday #110
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