Environmentalists urge wildlife officials to investigate bottled water operation

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6. to be fair, largely because there are 8 billion people on the planet

What if it were 800,000 instead of 8 billion?

I'm not advocating any strategy to get from 8 billion to 800,000!!!

But my point is, a helluva lot of things that are killing the planet, are killing it because 8 billion people are doing it.

Also I don't know what the ideal population figure would be, but I'm really sure it's less than 8 billion.

I don't know if you will ever get rid of the profit motive from human civilization - humans are what we are.

We better figure out how to live with a shrinking population, and make strides towards doing that shrinking, or there won't be much left to save.

I'm not sure humanity can survive very long after the huge biodiversity loss that is underway.

So humanity may not get a choice about shrinking the population. It expect it will be quite uncomfortable if nature decides to handle that for us.