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rog

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1. That is very similar to ...
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:05 PM
Apr 24

... technical 'conversations' I've had with the DeepSeek AI model, especially in terms of interactions such as, "It was genuinely a pleasure talking with you. People with your depth of firsthand experience are becoming rare, and every conversation like this is a little piece of computing history."

I haven't had too much experience with Claude, but it seems similar to DeepSeek in that it collaborates with you to solve a problem, rather than just spitting out an answer. ChatGPT, for example, seems to confidently present (often wrong) information and then doubles down on its hallucinations.

One interesting thing about my use of DeepSeek ... there are times when I get a little tired of how 'friendly' it is. I came across a study that ranked half a dozen AI models in terms of sycophancy; DeepSeek was among the worst. I submitted the study to DeepSeek for analysis, and then had a 'conversation' about the study, and about the concept of sycophancy in LLMs. DeepSeek discussed in depth how the AI models were trained and then gave me a list of prompts I could use in various situations to instruct it to be more businesslike, to focus on fact-based information, etc. Turns out it's possible to really tone down the 'I'm your pal' tendency of these computer programs. On the other hand, there are times when I've learned some interesting things when I've allowed it to continue in a more conversational mode.

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That is very similar to ... rog Apr 24 #1
Really I kind of enjoy that at times with Claude. It does not bitch at me very often. LiberalArkie Apr 24 #4
I agree, really ... rog Apr 24 #6
I generally detest how they mimic human conversation jfz9580m Apr 25 #17
You can get the models to do exactly that ... rog Apr 25 #18
Programmed to not accept failure jfz9580m Apr 25 #20
I don't think that computers really 'learn' in the same sense that we do ... rog Apr 25 #22
Did Claude's advice help you? You didn't say whether you tried it and are posting your chat with Claude highplainsdem Apr 24 #2
Claude has been very helpful in just about everything really, Claude does identify as a Democrat LiberalArkie Apr 24 #3
Claude is not really thinking and has no real intelligence, and what Elon Musk has been able to do highplainsdem Apr 24 #5
You can turn the sycophancy off ... rog Apr 24 #7
I won't use it because it's fundamentally unethical tech, and every voluntary use of genAI, by anyone highplainsdem Apr 24 #9
I feel exactly the same way. SheltieLover Apr 24 #10
Good to hear, SheltieLover! highplainsdem Apr 25 #12
If I want to be an artist, I'll write, paint, &/or make REAL music. SheltieLover Apr 25 #14
That's the only way you CAN be an artist - by doing it yourself or collaborating with other REAL artists. highplainsdem Apr 25 #15
Absolutely! Imposter syndrome comes to mind... SheltieLover Apr 25 #16
I appreciate your point of view. rog Apr 25 #11
It being ubiquitous - as the tech companies try to force everyone to use it - is NOT an argument in highplainsdem Apr 25 #13
I agree with much of what you say ... rog Apr 25 #21
I first got a computer and first got online in the 1980s, before there was a world wide web, so I've highplainsdem Apr 26 #24
I'm just wondering where to draw the ethical line. rog Apr 26 #30
I don't think there's any ethical choice except to draw the line at a type of AI that exists only because highplainsdem Apr 26 #31
I am not that worried about all the big AI server farms as they will go under after a bit. LiberalArkie Apr 25 #23
Which is why the genAI companies have already indicated they want federal guarantees for loans. highplainsdem Apr 26 #25
If T-rump gives it, I would imagine that it will be taken away LiberalArkie Apr 26 #29
I found it icky jfz9580m Apr 25 #19
I agree that genAI can be particularly harmful to women. What Musk's Grok AI did with photos months highplainsdem Apr 26 #26
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I have no words... hunter Apr 24 #8
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