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highplainsdem

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24. I first got a computer and first got online in the 1980s, before there was a world wide web, so I've
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 10:36 AM
Apr 26

seen those changes. I have nothing against technology that's helpful if it doesn't create a lot of new problems - as genAI does - and if it isn't inherently unethical - as genAI is.

I don't understand how anyone who knows the genAI industry is completely built on theft can feel at all comfortable using it, voluntarily, unless on some level they've convinced themselves that the theft doesn't matter as much as their personal convenience. Or they've decided that since much of the theft already took place (though it's continuing every minute) that they might as well take advantage of it.

I know too many people whose work was stolen to train AI, and too many who have already lost income because of it, to think that theft should ever be ignored for the sake of convenience.

And since you're a musician, I'd think that the genAI industry's theft of all the copyrighted music they could get to, so they could produce tools to allow non-musicians to churn out millions of tracks of fake music and flood platforms and try to steal attention from real musicians, would make it impossible for you to feel comfortable using genAI.

GenAI's value is not in the tech itself. The value it offers people comes from the theft of all that intellectual property. The misappropriation of humanity's knowledge and culture.

And again...there are all those other problems this type of AI creates.

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That is very similar to ... rog Apr 24 #1
Really I kind of enjoy that at times with Claude. It does not bitch at me very often. LiberalArkie Apr 24 #4
I agree, really ... rog Apr 24 #6
I generally detest how they mimic human conversation jfz9580m Apr 25 #17
You can get the models to do exactly that ... rog Apr 25 #18
Programmed to not accept failure jfz9580m Apr 25 #20
I don't think that computers really 'learn' in the same sense that we do ... rog Apr 25 #22
Did Claude's advice help you? You didn't say whether you tried it and are posting your chat with Claude highplainsdem Apr 24 #2
Claude has been very helpful in just about everything really, Claude does identify as a Democrat LiberalArkie Apr 24 #3
Claude is not really thinking and has no real intelligence, and what Elon Musk has been able to do highplainsdem Apr 24 #5
You can turn the sycophancy off ... rog Apr 24 #7
I won't use it because it's fundamentally unethical tech, and every voluntary use of genAI, by anyone highplainsdem Apr 24 #9
I feel exactly the same way. SheltieLover Apr 24 #10
Good to hear, SheltieLover! highplainsdem Apr 25 #12
If I want to be an artist, I'll write, paint, &/or make REAL music. SheltieLover Apr 25 #14
That's the only way you CAN be an artist - by doing it yourself or collaborating with other REAL artists. highplainsdem Apr 25 #15
Absolutely! Imposter syndrome comes to mind... SheltieLover Apr 25 #16
I appreciate your point of view. rog Apr 25 #11
It being ubiquitous - as the tech companies try to force everyone to use it - is NOT an argument in highplainsdem Apr 25 #13
I agree with much of what you say ... rog Apr 25 #21
I first got a computer and first got online in the 1980s, before there was a world wide web, so I've highplainsdem Apr 26 #24
I'm just wondering where to draw the ethical line. rog Apr 26 #30
I don't think there's any ethical choice except to draw the line at a type of AI that exists only because highplainsdem Apr 26 #31
I am not that worried about all the big AI server farms as they will go under after a bit. LiberalArkie Apr 25 #23
Which is why the genAI companies have already indicated they want federal guarantees for loans. highplainsdem Apr 26 #25
If T-rump gives it, I would imagine that it will be taken away LiberalArkie Apr 26 #29
I found it icky jfz9580m Apr 25 #19
I agree that genAI can be particularly harmful to women. What Musk's Grok AI did with photos months highplainsdem Apr 26 #26
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I have no words... hunter Apr 24 #8
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