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rog

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30. I'm just wondering where to draw the ethical line.
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 02:23 PM
Apr 26

It seems there are ethical, moral, environmental, etc. choices everywhere in human existence. We still don't have the use of fire under control.

To make a smartphone, lose your ethics
https://bigthink.com/technology-innovation/smartphone-manufacturing-is-unethical/
How is a smartphone made? Nearly every stage in the smartphone life cycle involves something ethically questionable.

Rather than working to eliminate LLM technology -- which is not going to happen -- might not a more constructive approach be to recognize the problems, ethical concerns, legal concerns, etc, and attempt to build a workable framework of ethical and regulatory standards?

Ethical Dilemmas and Privacy Issues in Emerging Technologies: A Review (Look at sections 5 & 6, re: AI and Big Data.)
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9921682/

This paper reviews the ethical issues, challenges, compliances, rules, and regulations for emerging technologies, including Cybersecurity, Cloud, Autonomous Vehicles, Artificial Intelligence, Big Data and Machine Learning through a comprehensive literature review. A synopsis of the ethical dilemmas in different use-case examples is provided; next, the authors look into the technical standards (i.e., privacy, compliance, security, etc.) and provide an understanding of how the issues arising from enabling technologies must be addressed and aligned in terms a of regulatory and ethical code of conduct. With the continuously evolving technologies, it is hard to set a firm policy, or standard or ethical ground, as each ethical dilemma in tech is different and must be subjected to a different social, ethical, and legal solution. An analysis of different aspects of ethical decision making is provided. Ultimately, this paper provides insights for novices on developing an ethical, legal, and standardized industrial environment deploying emerging technologies.


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That is very similar to ... rog Apr 24 #1
Really I kind of enjoy that at times with Claude. It does not bitch at me very often. LiberalArkie Apr 24 #4
I agree, really ... rog Apr 24 #6
I generally detest how they mimic human conversation jfz9580m Apr 25 #17
You can get the models to do exactly that ... rog Apr 25 #18
Programmed to not accept failure jfz9580m Apr 25 #20
I don't think that computers really 'learn' in the same sense that we do ... rog Apr 25 #22
Did Claude's advice help you? You didn't say whether you tried it and are posting your chat with Claude highplainsdem Apr 24 #2
Claude has been very helpful in just about everything really, Claude does identify as a Democrat LiberalArkie Apr 24 #3
Claude is not really thinking and has no real intelligence, and what Elon Musk has been able to do highplainsdem Apr 24 #5
You can turn the sycophancy off ... rog Apr 24 #7
I won't use it because it's fundamentally unethical tech, and every voluntary use of genAI, by anyone highplainsdem Apr 24 #9
I feel exactly the same way. SheltieLover Apr 24 #10
Good to hear, SheltieLover! highplainsdem Apr 25 #12
If I want to be an artist, I'll write, paint, &/or make REAL music. SheltieLover Apr 25 #14
That's the only way you CAN be an artist - by doing it yourself or collaborating with other REAL artists. highplainsdem Apr 25 #15
Absolutely! Imposter syndrome comes to mind... SheltieLover Apr 25 #16
I appreciate your point of view. rog Apr 25 #11
It being ubiquitous - as the tech companies try to force everyone to use it - is NOT an argument in highplainsdem Apr 25 #13
I agree with much of what you say ... rog Apr 25 #21
I first got a computer and first got online in the 1980s, before there was a world wide web, so I've highplainsdem Apr 26 #24
I'm just wondering where to draw the ethical line. rog Apr 26 #30
I don't think there's any ethical choice except to draw the line at a type of AI that exists only because highplainsdem Apr 26 #31
I am not that worried about all the big AI server farms as they will go under after a bit. LiberalArkie Apr 25 #23
Which is why the genAI companies have already indicated they want federal guarantees for loans. highplainsdem Apr 26 #25
If T-rump gives it, I would imagine that it will be taken away LiberalArkie Apr 26 #29
I found it icky jfz9580m Apr 25 #19
I agree that genAI can be particularly harmful to women. What Musk's Grok AI did with photos months highplainsdem Apr 26 #26
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I have no words... hunter Apr 24 #8
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