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John Kerry

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beachmom

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Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:30 PM Feb 2012

TPM: Kerry Becomes Latest Dem to Oppose Obama on Contraception [View all]

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/kerry-becomes-latest-dem-to-oppose-obama-on

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03:02 PM EST
Kerry Becomes Latest Dem To Oppose Obama On Contraception

According to Ed Henry, Chief White House Correspondent for Fox News Channel, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) has signaled that the Obama Administration will need to adjust its stance on the contraception mandate.

As TPM reported earlier today, there is already a burgeoning group of Democrats who have countered the administration on the increasingly controversial issue.


Um, I totally disagree. And I'm a Catholic. It is an especially unfortunate position for the Senator to take, given that his most reliable supporters and voters are women. This is not the Catholic Church but institutions like universities and hospitals. And John Kerry has come out for women being treated unequally by these employers in the name of "religious freedom".

Good post here on why Obama is right and Kerry is wrong:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/controlling-birth-control-controlling-liberty.html

Full insurance coverage is a critical part of the picture. Birth control is an expensive product - $81 a month is considered a steal with no contribution from your insurance, but that number still prices out many women. Even insurance plans that have copays can be prohibitively pricey. Cheaper alternatives like condoms have significant failure rates. Insurance, overwhelmingly provided by employers in the American system, that covers birth control with no copays is a woman's best bet.

The Administration's critics are saying that, in the currently existing health care system, protecting that right would create a grave threat to equally important rights of free association. Seems like a classic rights conflict. However, churches and institutions that serve only co-religionists are exempt from the requirement. The only institutions covered by the birth control mandate have chosen to participate in the broader market, a zone of private life governed by political rules. It's incumbent on critics to explain why this particular rule is a dangerous expansion of state power over market actors as compared to, say, forcing a Randian executive to follow minimum wage laws. If they can't, then it seems like the coverage requirement protects women's rights without appreciably increasing the state's threat to private associations. Critics would have to fall back on the pure religious liberty argument, which is itself problematic.


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All employees to be covered Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Quote ProSense Feb 2012 #2
Yup. I edited my post to include more arguments. beachmom Feb 2012 #3
Related: ProSense Feb 2012 #5
Oh, and THEY will never be happy beachmom Feb 2012 #4
Exactly. n/t wisteria Feb 2012 #19
Hey John, marsis Feb 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #9
Why go to anti - Catholic rhetoric on a completely unrelated issue karynnj Feb 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #13
They ARE fighting the provision for everyone. beachmom Feb 2012 #15
I think they are going far too far here karynnj Feb 2012 #17
How Many Of The Dems That Came Out Against This Are Running For Re-election...... global1 Feb 2012 #7
John Kerry is not up for re-election beachmom Feb 2012 #8
What would you want him to say - given that the Obama administartion is working on a karynnj Feb 2012 #12
But he will be, in two years.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #23
Kerry absolutely did NOT come out against this karynnj Feb 2012 #18
Kerry is BACKING the current adminstration position here karynnj Feb 2012 #10
Well, let's wait and see what they say. beachmom Feb 2012 #14
There are things I disagree with Kerry on, but on thsi, it really seems that you are karynnj Feb 2012 #20
There are also medical reasons to take birth control pills. beachmom Feb 2012 #25
Also, if a pharmacist has a religious conscience objection beachmom Feb 2012 #27
Could not agree with you more,beachmom! ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #28
Maybe I'm not being eloquent here but this sure is: beachmom Feb 2012 #16
I think he is wrong on this. And sad he would take this. Mass Feb 2012 #21
Just heard this on the Ed Show on MSNBC tonight.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #22
Here is a post by Kevin Drum that explains what this is about. Mass Feb 2012 #24
Well said, Mass. beachmom Feb 2012 #26
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