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beachmom

(15,239 posts)
14. Well, let's wait and see what they say.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:55 PM
Feb 2012

At this point, they are not the same position. The Obama Administration have announced nothing. We only hear of "compromise" type stories in the newspaper with no specifics.

And your main point is correct: there is no compromise here. Either it's covered or it isn't. Obama already compromised by delaying the implementation. Any further compromise would be pure and simple caving to extremists. Which John Kerry is fine with.

The Church is not only wrong constitutionally, they are wrong morally. Their position is DEAD wrong, and I say this as a Catholic. Their position leads to suffering especially in third world countries where being a "good Catholic" amounts to getting the AIDS virus. In a bigger picture point of view, their position DEPRIVES women of their rights. We're not talking something controversial here like abortion; we are talking about birth control. How nutty is that?

It's like no matter what Kerry does he's right according to you. That's crazy. And yes, Kerry's religious conscience bill which would allow pharmacists to object to filling prescriptions is bad policy. I said so at the time, and I continue to say so. Why do religious people have the right to disobey the law while any other group would not be allowed to do so? As said upthread, if a fan of Ayn Rand decided to no longer pay his employees the minimum wage because it went against his principles do you think he would be given one second of consideration by the government? Nope. Because the law is the law. He would be depriving his workers of basic labor rights. Yet women are afforded no such rights in the face of a Church which is still embroiled in a horrible systematic child abuse cover up scandal that spanned the whole globe? Ugh.


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All employees to be covered Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Quote ProSense Feb 2012 #2
Yup. I edited my post to include more arguments. beachmom Feb 2012 #3
Related: ProSense Feb 2012 #5
Oh, and THEY will never be happy beachmom Feb 2012 #4
Exactly. n/t wisteria Feb 2012 #19
Hey John, marsis Feb 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #9
Why go to anti - Catholic rhetoric on a completely unrelated issue karynnj Feb 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #13
They ARE fighting the provision for everyone. beachmom Feb 2012 #15
I think they are going far too far here karynnj Feb 2012 #17
How Many Of The Dems That Came Out Against This Are Running For Re-election...... global1 Feb 2012 #7
John Kerry is not up for re-election beachmom Feb 2012 #8
What would you want him to say - given that the Obama administartion is working on a karynnj Feb 2012 #12
But he will be, in two years.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #23
Kerry absolutely did NOT come out against this karynnj Feb 2012 #18
Kerry is BACKING the current adminstration position here karynnj Feb 2012 #10
Well, let's wait and see what they say. beachmom Feb 2012 #14
There are things I disagree with Kerry on, but on thsi, it really seems that you are karynnj Feb 2012 #20
There are also medical reasons to take birth control pills. beachmom Feb 2012 #25
Also, if a pharmacist has a religious conscience objection beachmom Feb 2012 #27
Could not agree with you more,beachmom! ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #28
Maybe I'm not being eloquent here but this sure is: beachmom Feb 2012 #16
I think he is wrong on this. And sad he would take this. Mass Feb 2012 #21
Just heard this on the Ed Show on MSNBC tonight.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #22
Here is a post by Kevin Drum that explains what this is about. Mass Feb 2012 #24
Well said, Mass. beachmom Feb 2012 #26
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