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karynnj

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17. I think they are going far too far here
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:18 PM
Feb 2012

I really do not think that the sexual abuse has any place in this discussion. You did not mention it - instead making an argument for insisting the law remain as it was announced. I have no problem with that.

I actually think that is where they will end up. As I said, I really do not see how you compromise when the positions are essentially A and (not A). But, as long as the Obama administration is speaking of a compromise that meets women's needs and considers the Church's needs, I don't see why Obama is to be praised, and Kerry criticized for the exact same position. I would consider part of Kerry's goal was to not make news by not being opposed to the administration, especially on Fox. It also may be that he sees Obama as wanting to be seen making the effort to listen - even if ultimately the ruling stays the same.

I have read Senator Gillibrand's strong support for the measure. What I don't know is whether her comment was before or after the administration spoke of working with the Catholic Church. I assume that was closer to what you would have preferred Kerry's position to have been.

From other sources, it appears that many Catholic universities and hospitals already cover birth control. That likely indicates that there is economic pressure to do so.

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All employees to be covered Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Quote ProSense Feb 2012 #2
Yup. I edited my post to include more arguments. beachmom Feb 2012 #3
Related: ProSense Feb 2012 #5
Oh, and THEY will never be happy beachmom Feb 2012 #4
Exactly. n/t wisteria Feb 2012 #19
Hey John, marsis Feb 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #9
Why go to anti - Catholic rhetoric on a completely unrelated issue karynnj Feb 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #13
They ARE fighting the provision for everyone. beachmom Feb 2012 #15
I think they are going far too far here karynnj Feb 2012 #17
How Many Of The Dems That Came Out Against This Are Running For Re-election...... global1 Feb 2012 #7
John Kerry is not up for re-election beachmom Feb 2012 #8
What would you want him to say - given that the Obama administartion is working on a karynnj Feb 2012 #12
But he will be, in two years.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #23
Kerry absolutely did NOT come out against this karynnj Feb 2012 #18
Kerry is BACKING the current adminstration position here karynnj Feb 2012 #10
Well, let's wait and see what they say. beachmom Feb 2012 #14
There are things I disagree with Kerry on, but on thsi, it really seems that you are karynnj Feb 2012 #20
There are also medical reasons to take birth control pills. beachmom Feb 2012 #25
Also, if a pharmacist has a religious conscience objection beachmom Feb 2012 #27
Could not agree with you more,beachmom! ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #28
Maybe I'm not being eloquent here but this sure is: beachmom Feb 2012 #16
I think he is wrong on this. And sad he would take this. Mass Feb 2012 #21
Just heard this on the Ed Show on MSNBC tonight.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #22
Here is a post by Kevin Drum that explains what this is about. Mass Feb 2012 #24
Well said, Mass. beachmom Feb 2012 #26
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