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28. Could not agree with you more,beachmom!
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 11:56 AM
Feb 2012

On most all of the above-and the fact that this affects women in ways unrelated to contraception (though of course very important) as well. For example, I have a good friend who has a chromosome disorder that requires her to take the Pill for hormonal reasons-she could literally have a heart attack without it. So it's not even solely about contraception-this is an overall women's health issue.

Btw my friend is a practicing Catholic.

IMO this whole situation makes a compelling case for the Separation of Church and State-and single payer, which would effectively neutralize these issues.

Though imo this is not and should not be a religious issue-it's simple labor law!

As for the WH "accommodation"-we shall see..I'm waiting to hear what the President says.

I do however think there is a definite gender gap and divide here. Rachel Maddow broke it down really well on her show the other night: the Democratic men (even Lawrence ODonnell apparently!) Are worried about the so called Catholic swing vote; the women tending to look instead to the overall women (majority!) Vote. Including Catholic women who some recent polls show to be even more supportive of the original measure than their non Catholic counterparts!

The Dem men-JK I hate to say included-are or seem to be acting on nerves about the perceived politics of this. I frankly think the WH would've been better served to have female admin members of the admin or supportive Dem women in Congress to be surrogates on this-I know JK was independently approached but I mean instead of Biden, Axelrod etc The fact that no women leaders were 'in' on the just reported admin meeting with the Bishops at the Wh was imo a misstep Looks out of touch imo This is after all a women's issue. We have plenty of women in the admin and Congress. I'd frankly rather hear from Sebelius or if it's to be in Congress, someone like Boxer than Biden or JK on this-as much as I obviously support admire and respect both men-JK of course especially! I just differ with him here Though I think he had good intentions-just a little misguided imho

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All employees to be covered Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Quote ProSense Feb 2012 #2
Yup. I edited my post to include more arguments. beachmom Feb 2012 #3
Related: ProSense Feb 2012 #5
Oh, and THEY will never be happy beachmom Feb 2012 #4
Exactly. n/t wisteria Feb 2012 #19
Hey John, marsis Feb 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #9
Why go to anti - Catholic rhetoric on a completely unrelated issue karynnj Feb 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Feb 2012 #13
They ARE fighting the provision for everyone. beachmom Feb 2012 #15
I think they are going far too far here karynnj Feb 2012 #17
How Many Of The Dems That Came Out Against This Are Running For Re-election...... global1 Feb 2012 #7
John Kerry is not up for re-election beachmom Feb 2012 #8
What would you want him to say - given that the Obama administartion is working on a karynnj Feb 2012 #12
But he will be, in two years.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #23
Kerry absolutely did NOT come out against this karynnj Feb 2012 #18
Kerry is BACKING the current adminstration position here karynnj Feb 2012 #10
Well, let's wait and see what they say. beachmom Feb 2012 #14
There are things I disagree with Kerry on, but on thsi, it really seems that you are karynnj Feb 2012 #20
There are also medical reasons to take birth control pills. beachmom Feb 2012 #25
Also, if a pharmacist has a religious conscience objection beachmom Feb 2012 #27
Could not agree with you more,beachmom! ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #28
Maybe I'm not being eloquent here but this sure is: beachmom Feb 2012 #16
I think he is wrong on this. And sad he would take this. Mass Feb 2012 #21
Just heard this on the Ed Show on MSNBC tonight.. ObamaKerryDem Feb 2012 #22
Here is a post by Kevin Drum that explains what this is about. Mass Feb 2012 #24
Well said, Mass. beachmom Feb 2012 #26
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