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isitreal

(55 posts)
9. Search for Colorado Marshall fire for lots of good info
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:54 AM
Jan 12

Almost 3 years to the day a very similar fire tore through 2 towns near Boulder Colorado. Extreme winds aproching 100mph made the fire basically unfightable. In around 4 hours over 1000 homes were burned to the ground. Looking at the pics of the aftermath was shocking with mostly just basements with ash and some metal debris in them. Lucky there was only 2 deaths. 3 years later about 70% of the homes have been rebuilt.

The parallels to the comments coming out of the LA fires are amazing. Fire hydrants with no water is one of them. The system just could not keep up with all the water getting pumped out of it by all the regional fire trucks that rushed into try to help. The pipes in the residential areas are not large enough to supply the shear volume being asked of it. One of the city water systems managers even disabled the water treatment system to all their system to keep suppling as much volume of raw water as they could. It took months to resanitize the supply system. An important paper/Manuel was written an published as before there was little information available for doing this.

if you look at the videos of a house fire being fought while under these kinds of high winds one fire truck does not stand a chance of even containing the fire to just that house.

With this being in the location that it was in Colorado there is a large number of researchers in the area that had the equipment and the interest to swing into action and start measuring data. There is lots of papers that have been written about many aspects of the fire. Just search with Marshall fire Colorado in your search terms. You will find an amazing amount of information that has been compiled about this event.

here is an example of a search for some air contamination research. https://www.colorado.edu/today/2024/12/23/months-after-marshall-fire-returning-residents-reported-symptoms-poor-indoor-air-quality

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There may, arguably, be greater risks from mixed residential/commercial fires than from WTC buildings. CoopersDad Jan 12 #1
Seriously. The mixture of toxins from all that is mindboggling. paleotn Jan 12 #5
I'm not sure about that choie Jan 12 #15
The main problem with the Twin Towers... Think. Again. Jan 12 #34
We need to Build Back Better with Cement Buildings Oneear Jan 12 #2
Three dimensional and printed was my first thought. littlemissmartypants Jan 12 #8
Cement buildings aren't necessarily good in earthquake country Zorro Jan 12 #14
All concrete in earthquake areas will have to be re-enforced. Old Crank Jan 12 #27
Stucco and Tile roof has been best with other California fires IbogaProject Jan 12 #30
Stucco does preform quite well. Old Crank Jan 12 #33
I've been looking at concrete -- it is a bit more complicated here because of earthquakes. LauraInLA Jan 12 #16
Stucco and Tile roof are best bet there IbogaProject Jan 12 #32
I've seen people with goats here -- there was a flock evacuated from the Palisades -- they tried to run! LauraInLA Jan 12 #18
I knew that you were... littlemissmartypants Jan 12 #3
...and I, in turn, appreciate your obvious intelligence and support. Thanx. NNadir Jan 12 #7
Agree. Angelinos are being exposed to some rather nasty things. paleotn Jan 12 #4
Very good subject worthy of discussion. William769 Jan 12 #6
Search for Colorado Marshall fire for lots of good info isitreal Jan 12 #9
Thank you. That's good information. Those fires in Boulder, a city I love and visited often, went down the... NNadir Jan 12 #10
Except for the people who experienced it here evemac Jan 12 #12
I'm very sure that's true. There are so many of these disasters now, that we tend to forget individual cases unless... NNadir Jan 12 #20
This is a very interesting comparison! Thank you for the info and the idea to read more ;). LauraInLA Jan 12 #19
You bring up good points about pipe sizes for water Old Crank Jan 12 #31
Could you share this article as a separate thread? I think it should get broad visibility. LauraInLA Jan 12 #36
I remember mgardener Jan 12 #11
I've seen and heard... 2naSalit Jan 12 #13
The Santa Ana winds are blowing most of it out to sea. speak easy Jan 12 #17
I don't know in which part of town you're living, but in my part of Burbank we're still seeing ash. Hope today LauraInLA Jan 12 #21
I saw a post from someone in Torrance Lulu KC Jan 12 #37
Thank you. I think it will take a long time for us to realize just how much we have lost as a community, LauraInLA Jan 12 #40
There is no "away" Cirsium Jan 12 #25
Agreed. speak easy Jan 12 #29
True Cirsium Jan 12 #35
The Santa Winds blow east to west, but a look at the geography... NNadir Jan 13 #43
... speak easy Jan 13 #44
definitely true... it was mentioned a lot when Canadian forests were burning and the smoke blew down here LymphocyteLover Jan 12 #22
Thank you for this post. I have been very worried brer cat Jan 12 #23
I know of the toxic effects slightlv Jan 12 #24
I believe there is an ongoing study from the 2021 Marshall Fire between Boulder & Lafayette, CO hlthe2b Jan 12 #26
The toxic smoke is very dangerous. Irish_Dem Jan 12 #28
Yes, absolutely Lulu KC Jan 12 #38
I wonder how much help HN95 or N95 masks would be. Better than nothing, I bet n/t KatK Jan 12 #39
I was in LA during the Rodney King fires and in Manhattan on 9/11 GreatGazoo Jan 12 #41
I think we're only experiencing the knife's edge defacto7 Jan 13 #42
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