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lumberjack_jeff

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26. WA DOE is trying to get Puget Sound designated as a no discharge zone.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

It's a bad idea. Specifically their insistence that "nutrient loading" is a problem.

In 1900, the sound was teeming with life because of the nutrients running off the forested land into the sound. As the area developed, that nutrient level (and biological mass) was maintained by sewage waste discharged into the sound (not optimal because of the bacteria involved). Now that the forest runoff and the sewage have both been eliminated, the sound is mostly sterile of marine life.

Salmon populations are down 70%+

All marine toilets are part of a MSD. Type 1 msd's reduce bacteria count to 1000 per 100ml. Type 2's reduce it to 200 per 100ml. Type 3's are holding tank/no treatment.

1000 per 100ml is a benign level. There are systems which function by electrically turning salt water into chlorine through electrolysis then treating the waste with that, and there are others which disinfect the waste using tablet or liquid chlorine. There are still others which incorporate bacterial digestion into the system.

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Fascinating to contemplate the difficulties just for water. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #1
Sounds like you learned early and well. cbayer Sep 2012 #2
You are right about how fast it goes down a drain. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #8
Lol at the yell. I have had many a guest be the recipient at that. cbayer Sep 2012 #9
That pool water is "stale". LOL. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #11
He was just going to run it into the street where it would go down the sewers. cbayer Sep 2012 #19
The problem with the wonderful faucet is what we do with it. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #3
This country has always been blessed Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #10
Great question Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #12
The house of Saud abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #13
End how? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #21
Even the Saudis can run out of oil abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #25
OK I thought maybe they were starting to go solar, which I guess they are. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #29
thank you for this fizzgig Sep 2012 #4
Before living on a boat, you may want to charter one for a week or two (if you haven't already). cbayer Sep 2012 #5
it's his go-to dream when he's feeling unhappy with where we are fizzgig Sep 2012 #6
I hear you. A lot of people see it as completely idyllic, and cbayer Sep 2012 #7
yeah, where we are is not conducive to such living arrangements fizzgig Sep 2012 #14
Do you think it would be possible? abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #15
Not exactly sure what you are asking, but, yes, it is quite possible to design cbayer Sep 2012 #16
My question is really abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #17
We are coming very close to that. The biggest challenge is the farming aspect. cbayer Sep 2012 #18
Yes and no. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #20
We charge primarily by solar and hardly ever plug into shore power. cbayer Sep 2012 #22
Most of my boating is in Puget Sound lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #23
Yes, it would be a lot harder for you to get 3 miles out, and there may be an cbayer Sep 2012 #24
WA DOE is trying to get Puget Sound designated as a no discharge zone. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #26
I figure it would take us months to put out what a whale probably puts out in a day. cbayer Sep 2012 #27
Composting toilets are becoming more popular on boats, RVs and other off grid housing Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #28
The composting toilet is interesting lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #30
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