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Eko

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15. Its nothing like it except for the part where they wont take them in.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 12:05 PM
Dec 29

One can easily say that the reason Arab countries wont take in Palestinians is indeed because of the fear of Hamas or other terrorist groups increasing in strength in their countries and destabilizing them. One could also say that the reason for the countries not taking in Jews was because of racism that included threats to national security just like the Arab countries of now.

In June 1940, seventy-one percent of Americans thought Germany had already started to organize a fifth column in the United States. Roosevelt warned that even Jewish refugees could become a threat, aiding Nazi Germany in exchange for the lives of loved ones held hostage in Europe. The FBI warned Americans to be on guard.


The State Department instituted additional restrictions on immigration in 1941, citing national security concerns. Among these restrictions was the announcement that any refugee with close family still in enemy territory would be ineligible for a US immigration visa. American consulates closed in Nazi-occupied territory in July 1941, cutting off many applicants from the US diplomats issuing visas. At the same time, the State Department announced that all visa applicants had to be approved by an interdepartmental visa review committee in Washington, DC. This decision further delayed the departure of those refugees who had managed to make it to southern France or Lisbon, Portugal, the only places in Europe from which they could still escape.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-united-states-and-the-refugee-crisis-1938-41

I think that kinda makes your point that "No country unwilling to take Jewish refugees at the end of WWII was concerned that they would get dragged into further wars due to Jewish terrorist attacks against other countries from within their borders." historically incorrect.

Lastly I cant say if that was always Israels plan. Proving intent is always a hard thing to do and I tend to shy away from that argument. It's much easier to argue that if that was not their intent then the results seem to be trending to the same. In the end that is what matters.

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In terms of security he's right. Mosby Dec 28 #1
I'm sure the Palestinians who say it aren't thinking about their security. Eko Dec 28 #2
That was always their plan. Drive all the Palestinians from Gaza into Egypt. patphil Dec 28 #3
Except Egypt won't take a single Palestinian. Mosby Dec 28 #4
That's a horrible argument in many ways. Eko Dec 28 #5
Not nearly as horrible as patphi's argument. Mosby Dec 28 #7
You should just be able to agree that it is a horrible argument without having to turn around and attack someone else. Eko Dec 28 #9
If you think their argument is horrible then make your case to them just like I did. Eko Dec 28 #10
You didn't make much of a case, and one extremely tenuous claim does not comprise "reasons". lapucelle Dec 29 #11
Its nothing like it except for the part where they wont take them in. Eko Dec 29 #15
Your citation reads "The United States and the Refugee Crisis, 1938-41" lapucelle Dec 29 #18
I never said anything about post WW2. Eko Dec 29 #22
And "at the end of WWII " is not post WW2 either. Eko Dec 29 #23
So now the contention is that UN Resolution 181 lapucelle Dec 29 #25
I never said that either. Eko Dec 29 #26
I said. Eko Dec 29 #27
Keep digging. lapucelle Dec 29 #30
Well I will bow to you as to the exact time frame I was talking about when I did not give an exact time frame. Eko Dec 29 #37
Are you sure about that? AloeVera Dec 29 #16
Yes, I'm sure about it. "Someone said something half a century ago" is not convincing evidence lapucelle Dec 29 #17
You obviously missed the point on purpose. AloeVera Dec 29 #21
How about a different reason from recently? Eko Dec 29 #24
That doesn't explain concrete and steel walls lapucelle Dec 29 #29
I think you can be against the smuggling of arms to a terrorist origination which was why the area was cleared Eko Dec 29 #38
I beg your pardon. This statement of yours is almost laughable. brush Dec 29 #28
Sounds like Israel needs a final solution to the Palestinian problem. Bok_Tukalo Dec 28 #6
What do you suggest? A single state? Mosby Dec 28 #8
Thanks to Trump voters, third party voters, and the Abandon Harris movement lapucelle Dec 29 #12
I still think Netanyahu is going to be removed or step down soon Mosby Dec 29 #32
"" The idea of annexing the OTs is wishful thinking promoted by a small minority of Israelis "" Israeli Jan 7 #44
Then get rid of the coalition system Mosby Jan 7 #47
Still cant get over the fact that you are calling .... Israeli Jan 8 #49
Yup. JohnSJ Dec 29 #33
Absolutely agree with you Israeli Jan 7 #43
I wonder how many posters here who have an anti/Israeli bias even JohnSJ Dec 29 #31
"coed"??? EarnestPutz Dec 29 #35
A "genocidal statement", no? AloeVera Dec 29 #13
The goose-stepping imagery is entirely coincidental and unintentional. AloeVera Dec 29 #14
"Of course I'm not serious." lapucelle Dec 29 #19
Ah the mocking and selective cutting and pasting... AloeVera Dec 29 #20
That's from 1977, things change. Mosby Dec 29 #34
Plus ca change... AloeVera Dec 29 #36
The Likud hasnt changed Israeli Jan 7 #45
Israel needs to sabbat hunter Dec 29 #39
Dream on ..... Israeli Jan 7 #46
I said sabbat hunter Jan 7 #48
For a 'peacekeeping' force to be effective, surely there must be peace first? Aussie105 Dec 30 #40
Yeah they don't want peace, and that's why they started the war on 10/7 right? ZRB Jan 2 #41
Is that why they signed treaties with both Sundance1220 Jan 7 #42
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