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20. KnR. I scanned the LA Times article today to see if there was a reference to his online affiliations

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Sun May 25, 2014, 01:52 PM

May 2014

There was one reference to PUAHate that I caught, but apparently not the in-depth analysis I've seen in some of the postings here at DU. I'm too sick over this to write to any news outlet myself (I live in Goleta, 3 miles from the University and Isla Vista), but I highly recommend that others do -- whether in an LTTE, a comment on the articles or tv news, or a direct email to the authors of same. Please.

The self-reinforcing nature of online communities is something I've observed ever since getting into this one. DU encourages diversity within boundaries, which is still it's greatest strength; DU also encourages and often demands honest research and sources. But some others are just hateful echo-chambers of solipsistic hatred -- and that is ultimately a danger to us all.

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Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism [View all] Starry Messenger May 2014 OP

An article on SPLC with interesting parallels, imo Starry Messenger May 2014 #1

Chilling, Starry Messenger. brer cat May 2014 #2

And these same guys target and kill many women. Starry Messenger May 2014 #4

misogyny...the gateway drug. ......great articles you shared BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #7

It's self-evident to me too. Starry Messenger May 2014 #12

yes, we definitely deserve that. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #94

Very well said...n/t whathehell May 2014 #15

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #91

awww ..... shucks :) .....thanks smirkymonkey. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #93

I have known too many like that Demeter May 2014 #27

may I humbly say it goes beyond that DonCoquixote May 2014 #83

K&R. Overseas May 2014 #3

I had the same thought excringency May 2014 #5

+1 Starry Messenger May 2014 #6

He is a typical... CSStrowbridge May 2014 #8

He is not typical of any group except mass murderers. Nor was he a member of any MRA group. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #16

FYI, this is the Feminist group. Starry Messenger May 2014 #17

Sure. I searched but can't find him being a member of any group. Please provide the links. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #47

PUAHate.com Starry Messenger May 2014 #48

Thanks for the link to dailyKos. Interesting. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #52

There are several variations, like white nationalist groups. Starry Messenger May 2014 #58

It doesn't matter one bit excringency May 2014 #56

I know, I'm just getting tired of only one gender being told they are making shit up in this convo. Starry Messenger May 2014 #60

I see now I was drawing a distinction that does not matter in this case, Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #69

I actually have it linked up in this thread. If this is the same one: Starry Messenger May 2014 #71

That's the one! I think it rather nails it. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #74

How DO you know so much about chervilant May 2014 #39

Ask CSStrowbridge, who is the one making the assertion that he is a member. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #51

Ah, yes, more condescension... chervilant May 2014 #88

I disagree. JDPriestly May 2014 #9

If you haven't yet, it would probably be useful to peruse his manifesto. Starry Messenger May 2014 #10

Just a thought, but, there's lost of WOMEN who are "lonely & rejected" and whathehell May 2014 #14

+1 n/t Triana May 2014 #18

I've known some female stalkers, and they were very difficult to deal with. JDPriestly May 2014 #23

Please..."Very difficult to deal with" is a lot different than "Mass Murderer". whathehell May 2014 #31

Seems that Rodgers also attacked his roommates or at least that something violent JDPriestly May 2014 #32

I think it was mainly about women, at least on the conscious level, whathehell May 2014 #54

And this guy isn't? ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #25

No one is saying he isn't.. whathehell May 2014 #30

Maybe guns really are some sort of phallic symbol? JDPriestly May 2014 #33

I think they may be, but I think male privilege & entitlement whathehell May 2014 #49

There are a lot of answers in his manifesto. Demit May 2014 #40

In his videos, he says he hates and despises guys. Helen Borg May 2014 #11

He hated men who got women he wanted. Starry Messenger May 2014 #13

"Bigotry is irrational" Android3.14 May 2014 #21

His attitudes SO remind me of Republicans/Teabaggers Triana May 2014 #22

This is such an excellent post. Starry Messenger May 2014 #37

He wanted women, but he hated them. wtmusic May 2014 #29

Lots of misogynists both hate and want women. Starry Messenger May 2014 #35

Wanting women = hating women. I'm lost there. JDPriestly May 2014 #34

His manifesto says he was declaring a "War on Women". Starry Messenger May 2014 #36

You REALLY need to read his manifesto. He lays out quite clearly how he feels. Demit May 2014 #41

Here's a screen-cap if you don't have time to wade through the whole thing. Starry Messenger May 2014 #42

and as usual, this "nice guy" felt entitled to "beautiful" females--apparently, zazen May 2014 #68

That way they get it both ways. Starry Messenger May 2014 #75

Very true. Ironically, a lot of those attitudes are due to the influence of Holllywood JDPriestly May 2014 #85

You need to listen to his words. He clearly both wanted and hated women. And yes, it is Squinch May 2014 #43

Of course it is, sulphurdunn May 2014 #57

No one said that he was. Starry Messenger May 2014 #59

That's true. sulphurdunn May 2014 #64

Well, this is the Feminist group. Starry Messenger May 2014 #67

I didn't look you up. sulphurdunn May 2014 #70

I am doing the first thing that needs to be done in any organizing drive. Starry Messenger May 2014 #72

Good for you. sulphurdunn May 2014 #73

Thanks for the help. Starry Messenger May 2014 #76

Anytime sulphurdunn May 2014 #77

I was having a ROFL about the mammoth reference. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #90

I will agree with you there. But not all mean people are men. JDPriestly May 2014 #86

Are we talking about "mean" here? Starry Messenger May 2014 #89

wow. PeaceNikki May 2014 #55

He was way overly focused on sex. JDPriestly May 2014 #87

He hated women because they weren't attracted to him. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #82

I know of 2naSalit May 2014 #19

KnR. I scanned the LA Times article today to see if there was a reference to his online affiliations Hekate May 2014 #20

Wasn't this fella just mentally disturbed? Mysogyny never even crossed my mind.. and I'm a woman secondwind May 2014 #24

He said he was waging a "War on Women" ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #26

Here's a TINY snip from his manifesto PeaceNikki May 2014 #53

There are real men. sulphurdunn May 2014 #28

Well, which party is making sweeping gender generalizations that lead to this problem? Starry Messenger May 2014 #38

It appears the killer sulphurdunn May 2014 #45

I'm taking him at his words. Starry Messenger May 2014 #50

We can't discuss this till we propose a solution for you? Ok, we have your rules now... Squinch May 2014 #44

I don't think I said that. sulphurdunn May 2014 #46

. LeftyMom May 2014 #65

K&R Scuba May 2014 #61

actually, misogynistic terrorism noiretextatique May 2014 #62

I feel sure we will see more of this. Starry Messenger May 2014 #63

sadly...i agree noiretextatique May 2014 #84

K&R Jamastiene May 2014 #66

I've been thinking about a counterfactual and how it would change this guy's story. LeftyMom May 2014 #78

Right? Starry Messenger May 2014 #79

And instead of being dragged back from the brink by reasonable advice his resentments were fed. LeftyMom May 2014 #80

What I don't get now is people telling feminists this is our problem to fix. Starry Messenger May 2014 #81

Absolutely Horriying. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #92