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Adsos Letter

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15. Historians have quite recently upped that figure to well over 700,000
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 11:28 PM
Mar 2013

quite a staggering number for a nation of only slightly more than 31,000,000.

And we did almost say "F*** 'em, we're better off without them". One of Lincoln's greatest political struggles, as the war ground on with mounting casualty figures and back-to-back Northern defeats, was keeping the North committed to the war. Even as late as 1864, after the tide had really turned on the battlefield, Grant withheld the true casualty figures from the Cold Harbor battle because of fear of the impact on the presidential election to be held in November of that year. As the war dragged on, increasing numbers of Northerners were inclined to just let the South go.

As to your question: Like most historical questions, the answers are going to be multi-faceted. Along with all the socio-economic factors others have listed, I don't think you can discount the real sense in the North that secession was tantamount to treason against the nation. Lincoln certainly viewed it that way, although his policy prior to Ft. Sumter was to take a light hand toward the South, in hopes that better minds and cooler heads would prevail. It should be remembered that there was distinct anti-secession sentiment in the South as well; primarily for economic reasons, but there was a distinct minority of southerners who also viewed secession as treason.

The fact that the first tier of seven states to secede did so through a series of faits accomplis prior to the mandated requirement for popular conventions to decide the matter, speaks volumes.

The shelling of Ft. Sumter, as well as the surrender/capture of several other Federal military installations in Florida, and along the Gulf Coast during the same time period, marked the end of discussion.

it should be remembered that secession was threatened prior to the Civil War. Andrew Jackson faced the same threats of secession from South Carolina over the tariff of Abominations, and responded with the threat of force; although, in that case, South Carolina backed down, and forestalled the eventual for about 30 years.

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I think Lincoln realized it would eventually unravel the whole country. dawg Nov 2012 #1
The New England pols tried to force a confrontation with Leontius Nov 2012 #4
Actually, no Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #7
You fail to mention any of the previous attempts by New England pols Leontius Dec 2012 #8
I didn't mention them because there weren't any Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #9
Rufus King, Timothy Pickering, Theodore Sedgwick, New Orleans and Mississippi navigation, Leontius Dec 2012 #11
I just looked those up Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #12
I think you're right there... 47of74 Mar 2013 #13
some answers: Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #2
Both sides were wrong on the timing. SnohoDem Nov 2012 #3
Historians have quite recently upped that figure to well over 700,000 Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #15
Last Great Hope joseph abbott Nov 2012 #5
Yup. Secession was widely viewed as treason in the North. Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #16
Cotton was 60-80% of US export products in the Antebellum. You wanna let that go? Bucky Nov 2012 #6
Go reread the Gettysburg Address: that stuff mattered to people struggle4progress Dec 2012 #10
Fort Sumter? Democracyinkind Mar 2013 #14
kicking this thread-- the South was deeply divided and the North was well aware of it carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #17
The South vs. The South... Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #18
Freehling... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #19
I agree. Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #20
Ahh.. I love Martigny! Just thinking about it makes me want to leave work and go there... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #21
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