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In reply to the discussion: The Shocking 'Christian' Hate Mail Activists Received for Challenging Religious Indoctrination in th [View all]Panich52
(5,829 posts)5. Air Force Academy has had a huge problem w/ religious discrinination
for a long time.
Case in point: NYT article - May 12, 2005 ... A chaplain at the Air Force Academy described a "systemic and pervasive" problem of religious proselytizing ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/education/12academy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Yet, after supposedly addressing the problem...
"Air Force is reviewing rule that bars proselytizing by superiors"
May 19, 2014
"The single biggest frustration Ive had in this job is the perception that somehow there is religious persecution inside the United States Air Force, Gen. Mark Welsh III told a House Armed Services Committee hearing earlier this spring. Its not true. {U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh III }
Welshs irritation underscored the pressure the Air Force is under from Republicans in Congress, evangelical Christians and conservative advocacy groups to end what they allege is the services suppression of religious freedom. Their charge isnt new, but the target is: a regulation designed to prevent religious bias by barring commanders and other leaders from the actual or apparent use of their positions to promote their religious convictions to their subordinates.
The controversy represents the latest chapter in the Air Forces years-long struggle to balance the constitutional right of freedom of faith with the Constitutions prohibition on the governmental promotion of religion.
"Its when the commander becomes the preacher that we have a problem, said a former senior defense official who dealt with the issue but requested anonymity in order to speak freely. Its commanders turning to subordinates and saying, Heres what makes my life worthwhile. Its going to my church and subscribing to my views.
"The Air Force religious freedom regulations and practices are inconsistent with the Constitution and with current law, 20 House of Representatives Republicans wrote in an April 15 letter to Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James. The regulation introduces a subjective and unworkable restriction on a leaders ability to speak about their faith.
May 19, 2014
"The single biggest frustration Ive had in this job is the perception that somehow there is religious persecution inside the United States Air Force, Gen. Mark Welsh III told a House Armed Services Committee hearing earlier this spring. Its not true. {U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh III }
Welshs irritation underscored the pressure the Air Force is under from Republicans in Congress, evangelical Christians and conservative advocacy groups to end what they allege is the services suppression of religious freedom. Their charge isnt new, but the target is: a regulation designed to prevent religious bias by barring commanders and other leaders from the actual or apparent use of their positions to promote their religious convictions to their subordinates.
The controversy represents the latest chapter in the Air Forces years-long struggle to balance the constitutional right of freedom of faith with the Constitutions prohibition on the governmental promotion of religion.
"Its when the commander becomes the preacher that we have a problem, said a former senior defense official who dealt with the issue but requested anonymity in order to speak freely. Its commanders turning to subordinates and saying, Heres what makes my life worthwhile. Its going to my church and subscribing to my views.
"The Air Force religious freedom regulations and practices are inconsistent with the Constitution and with current law, 20 House of Representatives Republicans wrote in an April 15 letter to Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James. The regulation introduces a subjective and unworkable restriction on a leaders ability to speak about their faith.
-snip-
{Theocrats in Congress at work...}
But Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, a Christian conservative policy institute that leads a coalition of organizations that are fighting the regulation, said that based on what hed heard from people at the meeting he expected the Air Force to make a policy change shortly.
The prospect alarms supporters of the policy, who say a pro-Christian bias in the Air Force remains overwhelming and that the regulation provides an avenue of relief to service members who object to being regaled with their superiors religious views or who worry that declining invitations to voluntary Bible classes might jeopardize their fitness reports and chances of promotion.
The regulation has been an umbrella in a tsunami of Christian fundamentalist extremism, asserted Mikey Weinstein, the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and a former Air Force officer whose outspokenness has won him scorn and death threats.
Since the regulation went into effect, 4,121 Air Force personnel have sought the organizations help in fending off proselytizing by superiors, Weinstein said. The organization has a 95 percent success rate in ending the offending behavior, he said. Evangelical Christians draw the largest number of complaints _ ironically enough, from fellow Christians, he said.
-snip-
The regulation grew out of a 2005 uproar over proselytizing by evangelical Christians and Weinsteins allegations of religious discrimination at the U.S. Air Force Academy, at Colorado Springs, Colo.
Since then, the Air Force has worked hard at balancing . . . free expression of religion with the needs of the military and not giving the appearance or an actuality of forcing anything or appearing to force, James told the Senate committee.
Not so, said Perkins of the Family Research Council, which issued a report in March that included a long list of alleged incidents ranging from officers ordered to remove Bibles from their desks to retaliation against personnel for expressing opposition to same-sex marriage. The most recent example cited at recent congressional hearings concerned an Air Force Academy cadet who was ordered to remove a biblical verse from a white board hed hung on his hallway door.
-snip-
Military culture, however, is very different from the civilian world, the regulations defenders responded. The services are closed, clannish and hierarchical, and in such an atmosphere a commanders exhortation to follow his or her beliefs or an invitation to a voluntary prayer circle can be perceived as tantamount to an order.
To illustrate the point, Weinstein said his organization had received 17 complaints _ all from Protestants _ in early May after a commander at an Air Force base left invitations to a Purity Ball _ a religious, high school prom-like event attended by fathers and daughters _ on the chairs of three senior subordinates. The girls take vows to refrain from premarital sex.
The subordinates understood that they had to distribute the invitations. They distributed them to 212 people, said Weinstein, who declined to identify the base, the commander or the complainants because of confidentiality considerations.
When one of the complainants confronted the commander with the no-proselytizing regulation, the commander refused to rescind the invitations but agreed not to distribute them next year, Weinstein said.
The commander, he added, declined to issue a statement acknowledging that his action violated the regulation because his superior would see it.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/05/19/227813/air-force-is-reviewing-rule-that.html
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The prospect alarms supporters of the policy, who say a pro-Christian bias in the Air Force remains overwhelming and that the regulation provides an avenue of relief to service members who object to being regaled with their superiors religious views or who worry that declining invitations to voluntary Bible classes might jeopardize their fitness reports and chances of promotion.
The regulation has been an umbrella in a tsunami of Christian fundamentalist extremism, asserted Mikey Weinstein, the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and a former Air Force officer whose outspokenness has won him scorn and death threats.
Since the regulation went into effect, 4,121 Air Force personnel have sought the organizations help in fending off proselytizing by superiors, Weinstein said. The organization has a 95 percent success rate in ending the offending behavior, he said. Evangelical Christians draw the largest number of complaints _ ironically enough, from fellow Christians, he said.
-snip-
The regulation grew out of a 2005 uproar over proselytizing by evangelical Christians and Weinsteins allegations of religious discrimination at the U.S. Air Force Academy, at Colorado Springs, Colo.
Since then, the Air Force has worked hard at balancing . . . free expression of religion with the needs of the military and not giving the appearance or an actuality of forcing anything or appearing to force, James told the Senate committee.
Not so, said Perkins of the Family Research Council, which issued a report in March that included a long list of alleged incidents ranging from officers ordered to remove Bibles from their desks to retaliation against personnel for expressing opposition to same-sex marriage. The most recent example cited at recent congressional hearings concerned an Air Force Academy cadet who was ordered to remove a biblical verse from a white board hed hung on his hallway door.
-snip-
Military culture, however, is very different from the civilian world, the regulations defenders responded. The services are closed, clannish and hierarchical, and in such an atmosphere a commanders exhortation to follow his or her beliefs or an invitation to a voluntary prayer circle can be perceived as tantamount to an order.
To illustrate the point, Weinstein said his organization had received 17 complaints _ all from Protestants _ in early May after a commander at an Air Force base left invitations to a Purity Ball _ a religious, high school prom-like event attended by fathers and daughters _ on the chairs of three senior subordinates. The girls take vows to refrain from premarital sex.
The subordinates understood that they had to distribute the invitations. They distributed them to 212 people, said Weinstein, who declined to identify the base, the commander or the complainants because of confidentiality considerations.
When one of the complainants confronted the commander with the no-proselytizing regulation, the commander refused to rescind the invitations but agreed not to distribute them next year, Weinstein said.
The commander, he added, declined to issue a statement acknowledging that his action violated the regulation because his superior would see it.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/05/19/227813/air-force-is-reviewing-rule-that.html
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