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Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:12 PM Sep 2013

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SANTA ANA, Calif.—Law-enforcement agencies in many places routinely take DNA samples from people convicted of murder and other violent crimes. But here in Orange County, officials also are taking samples from people charged with minor offenses such as shoplifting and drug possession, in exchange for agreeing to dismiss the charges or as part of plea deals. The practice of taking the cheek-swab samples is voluntary, which partially sidesteps a national controversy over when law enforcement can require DNA samples. But it also has raised the ire of civil-rights advocates, who say the practice is coercive.

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Last year, an Orange County man submitted a DNA sample as part of a plea deal after he was arrested for drunken driving. Raul Moreno-Perez's sample was entered into the database, where it matched DNA found in connection with a rape case that had remained unsolved for more than 10 years. Mr. Moreno-Perez was charged with rape and kidnapping and is awaiting trial; his defense attorney didn't respond to a request for comment.

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Jennifer Friedman, a public defender in Los Angeles County, said she believes there is a "coercive element" at play in the way that Orange County prosecutors agree to drop charges in exchange for DNA. "There's a real fear that, 'If I don't give a sample, I am going to be investigated,' " Ms. Friedman said. "It's hard to convince someone to not take a dismissal in return for just giving a little saliva."

Debate has raged for years over whether law enforcement should be allowed to collect DNA from people who are arrested but not convicted of serious crimes. That question sharply divided the U.S. Supreme Court earlier this year when it found in favor of the state of Maryland, which calls for DNA collection from people arrested and charged with violent crimes. A similar California law is being challenged before the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. In California, more than 1.4 million DNA profiles have been collected—far more than in any other state.

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The efforts are troubling to some defense lawyers and civil-liberties groups, who say DNA collection interferes with individual privacy. "By having DNA in this database, you become a potential suspect in any crime where DNA evidence is recovered," said Michael Risher, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union who is representing a group challenging California's DNA-collection law. Jacqueline Goodman, a defense attorney in Orange County, said the prospect of going to court is "frightening" to many of her clients. Some have professional licenses that they don't want to place in jeopardy. Others are undocumented immigrants and are worried that they could get in more serious trouble.

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WTH, does raping someone, robbing someone or killing someone interfere with their Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #1
The rights of the accused (those bearing the full force of the government) are critical. X_Digger Sep 2013 #2
Yes I know criminals has the upper hand but on the subject of privacy rights should be Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3
My personal opinion is that DNA should only be recorded on conviction. X_Digger Sep 2013 #4
So, you are saying it is okay with you to be raped and only if they are able to convict Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5
Expunge on acquittal or dropped charges. X_Digger Sep 2013 #6
Many times a rapist has raped before or will again. How are you going to stop the invasion Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #7
If you have nothing to hide, why worry? Is that really what you're saying? X_Digger Sep 2013 #8
You are right, don't do the crime and you may not be expected to do the time. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #9
If the database were only those who actually *had* committed crime, no problem. X_Digger Sep 2013 #10
Are you sure they have not committed anothrr crime? No you can not say this is true or will remain Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #11
We don't hold people in jail because they *might have* committed another crime. X_Digger Sep 2013 #12
Hey, there isn't any reasoning here but I am glad there is a DNA database, I hope more Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #13
'Whatever means'?!? How about we torture suspects, surely that'd lead to more convictions! n/t X_Digger Sep 2013 #14
You must be afraid of your DNA being associated with crimes. What if the criminal tortures Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #15
The ACLU is consistent. Rights are for all, not just those we agree with / like. X_Digger Sep 2013 #16
I agree flowerbells Oct 2013 #17
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