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Gun Control & RKBA

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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,620 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:16 AM Oct 2015

Guns, what works and what's just stupid [View all]

I live in New Jersey. New Jersey is one of the most restrictive states for guns. So how's that going? In some places it's wonderful. In others, not so much. Look at Camden. The 2012 murder rate is 86.3 per 100,000. Asking why is where the whole violence problem should begin. A city with a murder rate over 18 times the national average has to be doing something wrong and it has to be so egregiously obvious that a bit of investigation would make it obvious. Another question is why does the closest major city to Camden have a murder rate 1/4 of Camden's? The 2012 murder rate for Philadelphia is 21.5 per 100,000. Philly borders Camden. What ever the reason it isn't gun laws. PA is much more gun friendly and is a shall issue state for CCW.


Let's look at another city. Newark has a murder rate of 34.4 for 2012. That's less than half of Camden's rate but it's still close to 7 times the rate of New York City.

Both of these New Jersey towns have missed something that both Philly and the Big Apple have done.

Look for an explanation and there's a start.

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Guns, what works and what's just stupid [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP
the explanation is simple EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #1
current federal gun laws are being violated gejohnston Oct 2015 #2
You should maybe speak with your Congress critter about that discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #3
sorry EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #17
Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #18
If the crime rates are far lower in the places those guns come from... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #4
Maybe it's just... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #8
"Make (laws) national and see what happens." Like the 18th Amendment? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #6
Why does Camden have such a demand for the tools of crime? krispos42 Oct 2015 #12
+1 ^^^ discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #13
Now krispos... beevul Oct 2015 #14
Oh, right... krispos42 Oct 2015 #15
I was just wondering if you were planning to answer discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #16
time flies, in camden too jimmy the one Oct 2015 #5
Stunning progress for Camden discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #7
Am I good or what? jimmy the one Oct 2015 #10
you're fantastic discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #11
A separate issue discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #9
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