Gun Control & RKBA

flamin lib

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12. There is nothing to refute. GE, as always and as most gunners do, didn't address

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:41 AM

Apr 2016

the increase in deaths but rather attacked the researcher, the research methods (which he has no knowledge of) and repeats the 'no causation' mantra.

Nothing here to refute. Does he claim that the numbers are false? No, just that he doesn't like them.

It's simple; increase the number of cars on a freeway by 20% and the number of accidents increase along with it. Can anyone show causation between the individual new cars on the freeway? Not really. But is there an easy association between number of cars and accidents? I'd say yes.

Unless you'd like to argue that increasing traffic by 20% cannot increase accidents. Ya' wanna' do that?

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Yet, national data shows a liberalization of gun laws coupled with a lower gun death rates over Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #1

Yep - factors matter...nt jonno99 Apr 2016 #2

Outliers: You can bet J Hops gun Violence group will find 'em... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #17

yet heroin deaths still outpaces homicide gejohnston Apr 2016 #3

GE, you have out done yourself. This is almost as good as calling Moms Demand Action a PSYOPS group flamin lib Apr 2016 #4

I note that you have not responded to any of the points raised... theatre goon Apr 2016 #5

There is nothing to refute. GE, as always and as most gunners do, didn't address flamin lib Apr 2016 #12

there is no increase, gejohnston Apr 2016 #14

Oh, I'm sorry... theatre goon Apr 2016 #16

Can you show any data sarisataka Apr 2016 #20

They are astro turf, gejohnston Apr 2016 #6

Nope. You said they were paid and bused to protests. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #13

They are, gejohnston Apr 2016 #15

Do you have an actual rebuttal to his point that homicides were increasing at a faster rate Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #7

Allergies are laying siege to my sinuses -but even I could smell *that* red herring friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #9

Nah, the graph in #15 is a lot more compelling. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #19

Thank god I use Google Chrome. branford Apr 2016 #8

Do people really believe this load? ileus Apr 2016 #10

You mean besides desperate gun control supporters looking for "Facts"? DonP Apr 2016 #11

Why do I get a whiff of WOD-type skepticism when John's Hops rolls another one? Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #18