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jimmy the one

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18. illegitimate DGUs, legitimatized
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

Didn't George Zimmerman ultimately qualify for a DGU for shooting Trayvon Martin? If not why not? who should I check with? Kleck? Lott? which gun guru for hire?
Is that the kind of DGU's which mix in with the more bona fides?
And how about this most recent killing of football player will smith; there's surely to be a struggle for his killer to get a DGU for shooting him several times in the back, eh?:

Police say former New Orleans Saints star Will Smith had a loaded gun inside his vehicle on the night he was shot. New Orleans police said they found a 9 mm handgun in Smith's vehicle.
They also said they found a loaded revolver inside the vehicle of the man accused of shooting Smith, Cardell Hayes. But police said there was no evidence to suggest either of those weapons was fired during the shooting. Police say Hayes shot Smith with a different handgun..


An unnamed man who says he witnessed the argument, giving his version of events. 'I guess this guy {will smith} was like, "Get out of here or I have a gun,'' and he {killer} goes, "F*** y'all, I've got one too." And he grabs the gun and then he shoots him the back – dead.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3535833/Dramatic-video-shows-moment-football-player-Smith-rear-ended-car-drove-hit-run-just-moments-shot-dead.html#ixzz46wzIVBOL

Will Smith was fatally shot in the back in what police called a deadly act of road rage. .. defense attorney for Hayes, says there's more to the story. He says Hayes himself had been rear-ended moments earlier by a hit-and-run driver, and called 911 to describe the car he was following before he ran into Smith's Mercedes.


So the defense plan is pretty plain to see: Killer justifiably shot will smith since smith said he had a gun in his car, corroborated by witness, and as smith was going back to his car ostensibly to get his gun, Killer shot him in the back in a preemptive strike to prevent Smith from returning back & shooting back at him as he threatened.
I wonder how many of those 'legitimate' dgus, are like this? ergo, not so legitimate.

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Guns Are Rarely Used in Self-Defense [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP
How come gun control advocates only count homicides as justifiable? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #1
Because there are so few of them discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #40
Some pretty serious desperation is showing lately... theatre goon Apr 2016 #2
Hey Goon, which theatre is yours, the one in Colorado or the one in Louisiana? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #10
You're stooping ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #11
I asked Goon, how 'bout you let him respond? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #13
Oh, you mean it wasn't rhetorical? Straw Man Apr 2016 #15
Oh, I think Straw Man handled it quite well. theatre goon Apr 2016 #25
Yes, another rhetorical pumble that controllers use. All the time. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #22
So self-defense doesn't "count" if the attacker doesn't die. benEzra Apr 2016 #3
Yes, some of these cats are a bloody lot, I must say. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #26
Well... beevul Apr 2016 #33
The statistic is bogus. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #4
You mean, hearing the sound of a hammer cocking or a slide being racked? krispos42 Apr 2016 #14
Magic. Straw Man Apr 2016 #16
You have got to keep up the myth of guns for self defense because fasttense Apr 2016 #5
Do you have a linkable source for this? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #8
Actually, I think multiple purchases by a gun-owner may be explained more prosaically... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #28
Hold it, hold it... jmg257 Apr 2016 #6
Those people were murdered in their sleep. Nitram Apr 2016 #7
Could you expound on your comments? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #9
People shot to death in their beds. Nitram Apr 2016 #24
The OP refers to 2 distinct groups: Those unlawfully murdered and those who Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #32
I'm refering to the introduction to the OP where the sheriff implied if the people murdered Nitram Apr 2016 #34
Thank-you for taking the time to answer my questions. Sorry if I was a pest. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #39
Or better yet ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #17
I'm not in favor of capital punishment for growing pot.- Nitram Apr 2016 #23
Me neither... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #29
In rural areas? Really? Nitram Apr 2016 #30
Why, yes, many smoke doobies in rural areas. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #35
Eleanor, we're talking about dog ownership, not doobies. Nitram Apr 2016 #36
It doesn't mutt-er to me! Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #37
Nor am I. Straw Man Apr 2016 #31
Then criminal gun use is rare, too. krispos42 Apr 2016 #12
illegitimate DGUs, legitimatized jimmy the one Apr 2016 #18
Does the shooting of Mr. Smith invalidate all DGUs? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #19
You were supposed to be dazzled by sheer weight of verbiage, not ask inconvenient questions friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #38
or maybe they are sarisataka Apr 2016 #20
Another attempt to create a false Narrative©. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #21
It only takes once... ileus Apr 2016 #27
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