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In reply to the discussion: A recent thread sort of asked why we can't have cogent discussions about guns. [View all]pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)56. From that right-wing CDC: (Ooooooops!)
Defensive uses of guns are common:
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008. (emphasis added)
Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was used by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.
Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons. The report also notes, Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.
Interventions (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce mixed results:
Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue. The report could not conclude whether passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.
Gun buyback/turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crime:
There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).
Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.
The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008. (emphasis added)
Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was used by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.
Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons. The report also notes, Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.
Interventions (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce mixed results:
Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue. The report could not conclude whether passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.
Gun buyback/turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crime:
There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).
Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.
The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1
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A recent thread sort of asked why we can't have cogent discussions about guns. [View all]
flamin lib
Jun 2016
OP
Yes, people will reject you if you attribute to them things they have not said and do not believe.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2016
#14
Noting the same "like this one." I do seem pretty leftist, now that you bring it up.
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#20
I also note this singling out of the NRA in the context of pre-banned RW sources...
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#22
Reminds me of an incident in H.S. I was a big civil rights supporter, a redneck friend wasn't...
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#21
Heh-heh. Those were the good ol' days. (Afraid it sounds like an old tale, too.)
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#25
Wonder why the OP never responded to your question about the book he was reading.
pablo_marmol
Jun 2016
#32
Oh, look. It's another "It's hard to have a civil discussion because you 'people' suck" thread.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2016
#16
Kleck couldn't research his way out of a paper bag with a road map and a razor blade.nt
flamin lib
Jun 2016
#46
Mr. Johnston did a good job on slapping your nonsense down.....but more points:
pablo_marmol
Jun 2016
#55
Yeah and suppressors will save your hearing. Naaa, they just make your gun longer
flamin lib
Jun 2016
#60
LOL - even though pro-control academics have reached the same conclusions re. DGU's.
pablo_marmol
Jun 2016
#48
I still have yet to see many on the gun control side acknowledge the rarity of rifle misuse,
benEzra
Jun 2016
#53
Part of the reason is faith-promoting rumor like the following-note who the author is:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#58