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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Gun Control argument fail... [View all]gejohnston
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If that is a damning indictment, then aren't we all here at DU guilty as well?
No. I believe in basing policies on facts and evidence, not ideology.
All I know is, I go to the website Mass Shooting Tracker, click the links, and get local news stories that talk about people with gunshot wounds. I guess I could go click more of them and hope to find one about BB guns, but so far zilch.
Maybe he scrubbed after being discovered and called out.
I agree about cities, they have way worse problems than, for instance, my small town. However, those problems are certainly made worse by guns. If those gangs only had knives, it is likely that many victims/rival gang members could at least attempt to flee.
Yes, but how are you going to take those guns from gangs? I guess we could save 40K lives by banning heroin, oh wait. Abortion is completely banned in South Korea, but it isn't hard to find an abortion clinic. If strict gun control laws and prohibition in places like South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, or Venezuela doesn't work there, why do you think it would work here? Speaking of knives. There was a time when street gangs had "rumbles", which were mutual combat in a predetermined place and time, usually in parks away from citizens. If anyone had a gun, it was a "zip gun". This was also before the Gun Control Act when all you needed was a Sears catalog and a money order for the right amount. Back then, they fought over territory and being "king bad ass". Going face to face with knives and tire chains makes you "king bad ass", remote control does not. What changed? The drug business, and the profits it produces. They have the money for guns to protect their profits and market share from other gangs.
The fact that violence is part of human nature doesn't mean guns don't enhance the capacity for violence. Thus it makes no real sense to compare our gun stats with knife stats elsewhere.
It isn't human nature, it is culture. As for knife vs gun, dead is dead unless it is about culture war and not the real issue.
Really, most of the gun control movement is about culture, not violence.
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It is my belief that rights are innate in humans. They cannot be "taken away".
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Dec 2016
#27
re: "...the right to self-defense has nothing to do specifically with hand guns..."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Dec 2016
#29
re: "...we already do not allow certain weapon systems...the right is not absolute."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Dec 2016
#38
Since the #1 priority of the gun control lobby is outlawing the most popular *rifles*,
benEzra
Jan 2017
#43
I don't really care whether anyone wants to use the new Mass Shooting measure...
Eleanors38
Dec 2016
#41