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Dial H For Hero

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29. What exactly are you asking for?
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:05 AM
Jul 2021

Gun safety has always been part of gun culture. Try Googling about the rules of gun safety, and you'll get hundreds of millions of hits. You brought up MADD as an analogy, but MADD isn't really a part of car culture, is it? When guys get together to talk about cars, the need to avoid alcohol while driving is a rather rare subject; the latest Corvette is far more interesting. This, in spite of people being killed by impaired drivers in numbers comparable to those dying by the use of firearms in accidents and homicides.

You're not going to see articles about the dangers of drunk driving featuring prominently in Car & Driver magazine on a regular basis (if at all), and Guns & Ammo magazine is never going feature articles about gun safes over those of the latest iteration of the AR-15.

Change the culture so people like me don't want to go to war with it. The attitude that 500 is exhibiting; "I have no responsibility for anyone but ME and don't care", is irresponsible in the worst way. It makes people 'want to take your guns away'.


Being irresponsible in the worst way would be leaving a loaded firearm somewhere accessible by a toddler. 500 isn't doing that; per his posts, all of his firearms are being stored properly. The worst you can say about about him is that he's indifferent to what other people do. Using you analogy again, if someone said that they never drove while impaired, but that they had no responsibility for other people's drinking and didn't care about it, it would be irrational to make people want to take alcohol and/or cars away from people who don't drive drunk.

This being the case, why in the world would someone who acts responsibly regarding firearms but expresses indifference regarding what others do make people 'want to take your guns away'?

Repeating my question: What are you asking for? Gun safety already features juat as prominently in gun culture as the need to not drive impaired does in car culture, if not more so.

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Now they are saying it outloud, an unfired gun is just no fun! sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #1
If one is participating in recreational shooting, that does neccesitate shooting firearms, yes? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #4
A child would certainly want to play with it. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #2
Horrible idea DashOneBravo Jul 2021 #3
Poor reporting sarisataka Jul 2021 #5
Thank you for the update. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #6
No, extraordinarily poor judgment by a gun manufacturer. Paladin Jul 2021 #7
I blame the reporter sarisataka Jul 2021 #8
You're making my day. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #9
As I discovered when discussing this story in GD, simply pointing out facts is cause for being Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #11
Big difference between pointing out facts and deflecting blame. Paladin Jul 2021 #12
In that thread, I was asked what impact the "Lego gun" would have on shootings commited by toddlers. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #13
My comment was with regard to comments in this thread. Paladin Jul 2021 #14
Fair enough. Regarding the comments in this thread, then: How does pointing out an inaccurate Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #15
Hang on to that "inaccurate headline" angle all you want. Paladin Jul 2021 #16
I agree that the cease and desist letter made the manufacture of this kit moot. But nowhere have I Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #17
Utah Company Suspends Lego Handgun Case Kits Sales After Cease And Desist Eugene Jul 2021 #10
Does not bother me too much EX500rider Jul 2021 #18
I know. Not much bothers a gunner. No matter that 40-50 toddlers shoot themselves AndyS Jul 2021 #19
Fact: all firearms regardless of color should be safely secured around children EX500rider Jul 2021 #20
So when you can convince your gunner comrades to AndyS Jul 2021 #21
I am only responsible for firearms I might own, strangers will do whatever they do. EX500rider Jul 2021 #22
I see. While you don't see yourself as part of the problem AndyS Jul 2021 #23
Anymore then I feel responsible for strangers who DUI because I also own a car. EX500rider Jul 2021 #24
Ok, let me lower the heat that I brought to this. AndyS Jul 2021 #25
If I might jump in.... Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #27
Thanks for that but you seem to have missed the point. AndyS Jul 2021 #28
What exactly are you asking for? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #29
*Sigh* I've told you what I'm asking for. AndyS Jul 2021 #30
Gun people are already discussing gun safety, and always have been. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #31
Lather, rinse, repeat. After 40 years it gets tiring. Good day, sir. AndyS Jul 2021 #32
That's all you have? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #33
If I might jump in... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2021 #35
I would certainly be open to private sellers having access to the NICS. Quite reasonable. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #36
The problem, Andy, is that the 'real' answers to violence aren't easy and we all know it. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2021 #37
Ah yes, standard gun talking point #23 (or somewhere) on the list of well rehearsed AndyS Jul 2021 #38
Well allrighty then. From your silence and after re-reading the up-thread posts AndyS Jul 2021 #26
It's just not a cause I feel I could do much to change how strangers store their guns. EX500rider Jul 2021 #34
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