Veterans

unhappycamper

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43. Speaking for myself only.

Sat Apr 5, 2014, 06:37 AM

Apr 2014

Vietnam was the only war I've been in; I saw what I saw and I did what I did.

After I came back I said nothing about Vietnam for probably 30 years, but I stated reading. I read about our Indian Wars, our Civil War, everything Vietnam and most of the conflicts we have been in for the last 200 or so years. Grenada (WTF?). I read about Agent Orange and found out from other RVN vets that we also used Agents Purple and White. Willie Pete and cluster bombs were used with abandon. While in Chu Lai I watched carpet bombing B-52s doing their thing on a regular basis.

Along the way I bumped into Howard Zinn's writings. Oh fuck, that man got me to thinking... In some respects I still am thinking.

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question about the VN war and its veterans [View all] steve2470 Mar 2014 OP

As the wife of a Vietnam Vet I do know some Vets think it was a mistake but they went, Autumn Mar 2014 #1

ok, read my post again steve2470 Mar 2014 #2

I did read it. I took issue with the "in public, make that point known to a VN vet" part. Autumn Mar 2014 #3

my last word on this steve2470 Mar 2014 #4

I agree, if a VN veteran is going to be absolutely belligerent that the VN war was right Autumn Mar 2014 #5

I am an Army VN veteran 68-69, Phu Bai ... MindMover Mar 2014 #6

yep steve2470 Mar 2014 #7

Then every war that has ever been fought has been a mistake ... MindMover Mar 2014 #8

I dare you to make your argument in GD. Make an OP..... steve2470 Mar 2014 #9

It is your logic, not mine ... MindMover Mar 2014 #10

you're wrong, face it steve2470 Mar 2014 #11

Again, this is not my logic ... it is yours ... BTW, I quit taking dares at about 12 MindMover Mar 2014 #12

good for you, I honor you for your service steve2470 Mar 2014 #13

Every war is a complete clusterfxck ... MindMover Mar 2014 #15

Phu Bai rings a bell. unhappycamper Apr 2014 #42

Phu Bai '69-'70 here pinboy3niner May 2014 #45

I agree the war was a mistake but I have no interest in re-fighting that old debate pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #14

Warhawk ... LOL MindMover Mar 2014 #16

We'll have to disagree on this one, brother pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #22

Then every war that has ever been fought has been a mistake ... MindMover Mar 2014 #24

Welcome home to you, too pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #25

I believe in holding a man to his word ... I know that is old fashioned, but that is me MindMover Mar 2014 #35

When I say it's debatable... pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #36

I am not exactly sure how you jump from it being a civil war ... MindMover Mar 2014 #37

I agree. You are confused. :) pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #38

Thanks for telling me that I am confused about your explanation. MindMover Mar 2014 #39

this op was probably a mistake steve2470 Mar 2014 #17

Not a mistake pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #18

ok clarified steve2470 Mar 2014 #20

btw thanks for being diplomatic about this steve2470 Mar 2014 #19

As a Vietnam Vet I ask why don't you upaloopa Mar 2014 #21

read all my posts...thanks nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #23

"Thank you for your service" YarnAddict Mar 2014 #26

I agree, this op was a mistake nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #27

Don't be so easily discouraged pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #28

it just seems *some* veterans conflate the war with their personal worth steve2470 Mar 2014 #29

Now you're just puntificating :) pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #30

massive respect and kindness to all you guys and ladies steve2470 Mar 2014 #31

We VN vets no longer have it the worst pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #32

would you make a post in GD on that very issue ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #33

We did have it the worst for a long time pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #34

Speaking for myself only. unhappycamper Apr 2014 #43

I did two tours in Nam even tho I knew unhappycamper Apr 2014 #40

much respect to you, sir nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #41

No sweat bro, don't mean shit salimbag Apr 2014 #44