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Fortinbras Armstrong

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35. Two protagonists from the same author, Steven Donaldson
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:34 AM
Apr 2014

He wrote a series of science fiction novels, "The Gap". I read the first one, The Real Story, and loathed it. Thermopyle, the protagonist, is not a flawed hero, nor really an antihero. Rather, he is an unmitigated bastard with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He is a thief, murderer, thug and rapist. He destroys the only friend he ever had for no apparent reason. When Thermopyle gets into trouble, Morn, a woman whom he has repeatedly beaten and raped, feels sorry for him; making it blindingly obvious that Donaldson has never known any women who have been raped. The reader is also supposed to feel sorry for Thermopyle, even though Donaldson has not given the reader the slightest reason to feel sympathy for him.

Donaldson is also the author of the Thomas Covenant series. Covenant is unpleasant because he feels guilt. He goes on and on, page after page, book after book, kvetching about his guilt. At one point, he feels guilt about what a different character has done. In the second series, Covenant is unconscious for a couple of hundred pages, making me think "Thank God I do not have to listen to him whine about his guilt."

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I got handed my first Jack Reacher book a couple of years ago. SheilaT Apr 2014 #19
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I started trying to read that book years ago, but never got more than a couple chapters in. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #21
Scarlett O'Hara dixiegrrrrl Apr 2014 #11
I can totally relate. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #18
Oh, yeah. Could not stand Scarlett, although I liked the book. She was a Nay Apr 2014 #31
There have been novels that the character development TexasProgresive Apr 2014 #12
George Martin is NOT old! SheilaT Apr 2014 #20
Sheila, you're not old TexasProgresive Apr 2014 #24
Tonight's event was great because Connie Willis SheilaT Apr 2014 #29
Sheila, Can you recommend one of Ms. Willis' books TexasProgresive Apr 2014 #30
Oh yes! SheilaT Apr 2014 #32
Willis gets about seventy-five thumbs up from me, too. getting old in mke Apr 2014 #33
Thank you so much, Sheila TexasProgresive Apr 2014 #34
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Great question! I'm not quite sure how to explain it. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #16
Thank you for that explanation. Lex Apr 2014 #27
Thank YOU! I'm so glad my explanation made some sense. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #28
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Hey, Lydia! How interesting to see you pop up in this old thread! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #42
Ethan Frome Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #14
I've not read the book, I had to look it up. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #17
Funny you'd say that. I just read CHARLEY'S WEB by Joy Fielding. I didn't like Charley (a woman) raccoon Apr 2014 #15
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If it is crass, I am also guilty. Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #26
Two protagonists from the same author, Steven Donaldson Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #35
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