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In reply to the discussion: So I bought a new Toyota. I was mucking about in the trunk and took off one of the trim panels...Low and behold I found [View all]UpInArms
(54,560 posts)1. Here's what I found
https://engineerfix.com/do-new-cars-have-gps-trackers/
Dealer-installed devices, in contrast, are generally simpler hardware added after the vehicle leaves the factory. These are often small, plug-in modules placed in the On-Board Diagnostics (OBD-II) port, or hardwired starter interrupt devices used primarily for inventory management or subprime financing. These interrupt devices, which can remotely prevent the vehicle from starting, are installed to mitigate financial risk and are a separate category from the more comprehensive data collection performed by the factory-equipped TCU.
The extensive data collection facilitated by telematics raises significant questions about privacy, data ownership, and the ability of the consumer to opt-out. For factory-installed systems, physically disabling the TCU is difficult and can void warranties or impair safety features like ACN. The primary method of control is through the in-vehicle infotainment menus or the connected services application, where manufacturers often provide a Privacy Mode or a setting to decline Master Data Consent. However, opting out of data sharing frequently results in the loss of all associated connected services, including remote start and real-time navigation.
A major concern involves the practice of automakers sharing specific driving data with third-party data brokers, such as LexisNexis and Verisk. This data, which includes records of speeding and hard braking events, is used by the brokers to create detailed consumer reports and risk scores that are then sold to auto insurance companies. Consumers have reported significant insurance premium increases or even denial of coverage based on these telematics-derived reports, often without realizing their driving data was being monitored and shared.
The extensive data collection facilitated by telematics raises significant questions about privacy, data ownership, and the ability of the consumer to opt-out. For factory-installed systems, physically disabling the TCU is difficult and can void warranties or impair safety features like ACN. The primary method of control is through the in-vehicle infotainment menus or the connected services application, where manufacturers often provide a Privacy Mode or a setting to decline Master Data Consent. However, opting out of data sharing frequently results in the loss of all associated connected services, including remote start and real-time navigation.
A major concern involves the practice of automakers sharing specific driving data with third-party data brokers, such as LexisNexis and Verisk. This data, which includes records of speeding and hard braking events, is used by the brokers to create detailed consumer reports and risk scores that are then sold to auto insurance companies. Consumers have reported significant insurance premium increases or even denial of coverage based on these telematics-derived reports, often without realizing their driving data was being monitored and shared.
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So I bought a new Toyota. I was mucking about in the trunk and took off one of the trim panels...Low and behold I found [View all]
mitch96
Tuesday
OP
I doubt they are as worried about theft as they are repossession/recovery after default
hlthe2b
Tuesday
#4
I spent half the morning at the Toyota dealership getting a repair on my 2012 Rav. There was another older
Vinca
Tuesday
#12
I'm keeping my 2015 vehicle going forever. Just like Cuba. Fuck this new tech crap.
Evolve Dammit
Tuesday
#29
I believe they keep the ID so if you stop paying they can have the device turned on and start reporting the location.
LiberalArkie
Tuesday
#16
I had the option to refuse to allow the sale of my personal data when I got my 2023 RAV4.
summer_in_TX
Wednesday
#46
Between Honda and Toyota they work for me.. I got a hybrid and I believe Toyota makes the best hybrid system
mitch96
Tuesday
#37
I had a 63 bug and an 68 bug.. Great fun and easy to work on. I think the heater was designed by the SS...
mitch96
Tuesday
#39
All newer cars have tracking. People like to be able to find their cars in parking lots.
SunSeeker
Tuesday
#17
No wires just a big ass magnet.. The ones under the dash have wires attached..nt
mitch96
Tuesday
#40
If there's no wires to it, that means it's powered by a battery...which will eventually die.
SunSeeker
Tuesday
#45
"Fortunately I live in a city where I don't need one" I'm envious.. I live in an area/state where public transportation
mitch96
Tuesday
#41