2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So is our message really that all Trump voters are racist and that's why we lost? [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)""Retraining" for nonexistent jobs likely to be globalized or flooded into wage crashing/criteria ratcheting doesn't resonate as well as you think especially when you are like 50-55 and as things stand you are going to be paying a loan out of their Social Security (if they don't get screwed out of that like everything else).
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---------Yeah it doesn't sell well, that's the unfortunate reality but it's the necessity because some industries aren't making a come back. the elites failed to mitigate the ill effects of economic policy on those harmed by changes in the market.
"I'm also not buying the honest shtick either when you know you are lying like a motherfucker that hundreds of millions of people can have a decent job with education. It is a supply side job market theory and it just isn't true. The reality is their might be few 100,000 jobs looking for the right prospect and that is in no small part because companies want cheaper hires than experienced folks that have been looking and/or temping for years. "
------- I am not "lying like a motherfucker" - Automation is eating up jobs and will continue to do so, nothing will stop this trend. We have been in transition since the 1970's when manufacturing jobs slowly dwindled.
And it's not just manufacturing jobs we need to worry about. There are even complaints about sourcing labor for jobs in healthcare of all things. And then there are the right to work laws that see jobs hop from state to state.
"It isn't just the rust belt you don't have any answers for.
You don't have answers for most people when it comes down to it, not even the majority of the people in the great advanced coastal metros that aren't in the upwardly mobile/well heeled sets in such locales so fuck them too, maybe throw a minimum wage increase for those that can find something and even that maybe a tenth of what the better of still would be terribly concerned about a 3% tax on what they make over that 10x income but have no bones about throwing a 10% tithe to the insurance cartel onto someone in the same city they call a struggle making a fucking sliver of what they pull down. "
-------- It's not my job to have answers, I'm not a politician. I'm a young voter who tries to understand what the deal is because my future is at stake. If you think your anger is justified, my anger could blow up all of fucking New York. I had to endure a year where the issues I wanted to discussed were never discussed to my liking and it's my generation which will have to contend with the bullshit and try to fix it..
"You are also essentially telling those folks that aren't good at school that they are left for dead. There is no welfare. Housing waits are into the years. You can't be able to to afford to pay attention to qualify for food stamps. " -
---------Absolutely no where did I argue this, you're making assumptions about me and creating a false narrative about what I said because you disagree with me.
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