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jmg257

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12. Should still be able to count the actual ballots. They know why the machine counts were off,
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:44 AM
Dec 2016

but if the number of ballots match the number of voters in the poll books, then the mismatch is understood and the ballots should be hand counted.


"Eighty-seven of Wayne County’s decade-old voting machines broke on election day, according to Detroit’s elections director, Daniel Baxter. He told the Detroit News, which first reported the story, that ballot scanners often jammed when polling place workers were trying to operate them. Every time a jammed ballot was removed and reinserted, he suspects the machine may have re-counted it."

There are three vote totals: the total number of votes the electronic ballot scanners report; the total number of people who signed the electoral roll, or “poll book”; and the total number of paper ballots filled out and stored in sealed containers. The poll books and the electronic ballot scanners do not match, so the paper ballots will be counted by hand. If hand-tallied ballots can’t resolve all the mismatches, the votes will stand in the counties where the errors remain.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/05/us-election-recount-michigan-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

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Michigan, down the drain. elleng Dec 2016 #1
I didn't think it possible with paper ballots. longship Dec 2016 #2
who's going to do anything about it? seriously. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #4
Said Hitler before annexing the Sudentenland. byronius Dec 2016 #5
nothing to see here folks, move along... nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #3
Every country in the world who has been subjected to the arthritisR_US Dec 2016 #6
If the results can't be verified... DFW Dec 2016 #7
There is no such thing as a do-over, its unconstitutional Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #21
The voting doesn't matter, the people who count the votes matter....... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #8
Blaming this on a conspiracy between state and local election officials is ridiculous MichMan Dec 2016 #9
Denial mixed with confirmation bias can give some whacky results FBaggins Dec 2016 #10
Can we get this from a reliable news source? Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2016 #11
Refute one thing he has written flamingdem Dec 2016 #14
Well, there's this gem that snopes debunked. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2016 #15
I see nothing in that Snopes article which refutes anything. radius777 Dec 2016 #20
Snopes is more accurate than Palmer could ever hope to be. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2016 #24
Would several be ok? FBaggins Dec 2016 #25
Should still be able to count the actual ballots. They know why the machine counts were off, jmg257 Dec 2016 #12
2000 Deja Vu colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #13
A MI recount would be good but neither party wants it now ChetSinger Dec 2016 #16
Post a link about ballot box stuffing in Michigan please flamingdem Dec 2016 #18
Sure, here: ChetSinger Dec 2016 #19
US elections can never be won as long as we have these states running the game BSdetect Dec 2016 #17
Welcome to the US Constitution Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #22
You need to add poor and even middle class to your flamingdem Dec 2016 #26
The Democratic Party is losing because of weak state government control UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #23
Yes and control means flamingdem Dec 2016 #27
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