2016 Postmortem

DanTex

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19. It's a simple mathematical fact that the New Democrats are a small coalition.

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:44 PM

Dec 2016

The Progressive Caucus is bigger. Not only that, but not all "New Democrats" agree on everything. In fact, there are some Dems who are members of both the New Democrats and also the Progressive Caucus. Mindblowing!

The Politico article (which was a news article, not an opinion piece like the Salon article) is correct: moderate Democrats are a minority of the party. I agree with you on Social Security, but then so do most Democrats. It's some kind of fantasy that the thirdway has outsized influence.

On the other hand I don't disagree with moderate Dems on everything, for example, those two articles direct from the thirdway website. So why the demonization?

And the thing is, there are certain parts of the country where a Sanders or Warren couldn't get elected. I'd rather have a moderate Democrat than a teabagger any day.

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Shout out to the neoliberal corporatist third-way identity politics DLC neo-con wing of the party! [View all] DanTex Dec 2016 OP

I've been called each and every single one of those and my fealty questioned by those who wish to boston bean Dec 2016 #1

Most of them hang out at this site nowadays: think Dec 2016 #2

Looks like an obscure think tank. But I'm not sure why everyone keeps attacking them. DanTex Dec 2016 #4

Third Way Dems new war on Elizabeth Warren progressives: Why their centrist pitch is a political lo think Dec 2016 #8

"...the partys left, including Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California." DanTex Dec 2016 #13

The part you're quoting is an excerpt from Politico that the author was countering think Dec 2016 #16

It's a simple mathematical fact that the New Democrats are a small coalition. DanTex Dec 2016 #19

Supports TPP, cuts to Soc. Security & Medicare, tax breaks for corporations, "reforming" Dodd-Frank think Dec 2016 #20

With the exception of TPP, very few Dems agree with those things. DanTex Dec 2016 #21

Hey "Think" do you think I am one of them? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #6

No. think Dec 2016 #9

Keep fighting the good fight? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3

The good fight is the one against the GOP. DanTex Dec 2016 #5

The DLC does not exist as a formal organization, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #10

True. The DLC no longer exists. It's formal organization ended February 7, 2011 think Dec 2016 #12

Well, that's where you lose me. DanTex Dec 2016 #15

I think that people sometimes use the acronym "DLC" guillaumeb Dec 2016 #30

The problem is, it carries the implication that anyone DanTex Dec 2016 #31

Agreed. The use of any labels as shorthand risks oversimplifying. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #33

gotto distinguish yourself on the financing issues if you want to hang the GOP with them. JCanete Dec 2016 #7

That's pretty funny - i mean combining all those notions into one and pretending it's a confused el_bryanto Dec 2016 #11

Thirdway policies, hmm. DanTex Dec 2016 #14

There's always more solidarity when you aren't in charge. Common enemy and all. JCanete Dec 2016 #17

How would you suggest we determine what 3rd way means? DanTex Dec 2016 #22

But the point is you brought everything you know about Sarandon to the table, versus the two JCanete Dec 2016 #23

Ok, yes it's skewed. DanTex Dec 2016 #24

. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #18

It's essentially bullshit term (s) ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #25

After 12 years of Corrupt Trump/Pence... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #26

Thank you. I have been labeled one of those. leftofcool Dec 2016 #27

I agree Gothmog Dec 2016 #28

The magic words! betsuni Dec 2016 #29

Pure gobbledegook Bobbie Jo Dec 2016 #32

lol. good one. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #34

Funny thing: the people crying most about the DLC et. al. actualy helped actual fascists win. baldguy Dec 2016 #35

Hahahaha!!! AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #36