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lancelyons

(988 posts)
2. We have a long road ahead of us.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

There are alot of things that went wrong but to be honest with you...

It all starts with the leaders of the democratic party. I am not sure if they are savy enough or scurrilous enough to play the same game of hard ball that republicans play and it shows.

They do all the dirty work and democrats dont seem to want to get dirty.

We need a new set of leaders in the democratic party and not a bunch of good decent people. Good Decent People dont play hard enough and that is what you need to get this back on track.

We are fixing to go into a set of 8 years where Republicans will set the voter id scenarios in many states to make things even harder. Maybe they will just pass a law that says you have to be a republican to vote. Will we stand up? We will let that happen? Do we even have the gumption or the ability to stop it.

We need new leaders in the democratic party.

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Yep, and when we treated Wikileaks like an actual news source instead of Russian infiltration. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #1
Definitely true recently and very possibly infiltration all along. gordianot Dec 2016 #15
We have a long road ahead of us. lancelyons Dec 2016 #2
This. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #22
Assuming we could find evidence. HassleCat Dec 2016 #3
Also when we didn't prosecute the Bush war criminals and banksters nt doc03 Dec 2016 #4
No punishment. No deterrence. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #6
Yes, and we should have prosecuted . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #12
Good point! red dog 1 Dec 2016 #16
Yep. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #5
And when the primaries were fucked up like in Arizona it was largely crickets. NWCorona Dec 2016 #7
+1, and they did it little by little since 2004 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #8
What Election Fraud are you thinking of? brooklynite Dec 2016 #9
brooklynite..... SCantiGOP Dec 2016 #11
How about "Crosscheck"? red dog 1 Dec 2016 #17
Throwing legitimate voters off the rolls, Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #20
yeah, its the votes that dont get counted that count the most. mopinko Dec 2016 #21
Agreed! Liberal In Red State Dec 2016 #10
I loved Obama for the most part. lark Dec 2016 #13
plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #18
Eric Holder worked long and hard on this. The goalposts changed. LisaM Dec 2016 #14
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Dec 2016 #19
Yet during the campaign, both parties lauded the integrity of the US electoral system. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #23
If he did there'd be a catchy meme twisting it into something to whine about. ucrdem Dec 2016 #24
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