2016 Postmortem

TwilightZone

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14. Yeah, that's possible.

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 06:36 PM

Dec 2016

They're used to being lied to. The extent maybe doesn't matter as much as we think it should.

I also think that our natural tendency to believe stuff that validates our preconceived notions plays a part. They want to believe Trump will restore jobs, because they've been buying the GOP "jobs, jobs, jobs" nonsense for a couple decades now.

As many of us often thought during the campaign, Trump's message isn't counter to the Republican ideals - it's just more overt about it. Their ideas are racist, but they weren't (usually) openly racist about them in public. Trump is.

It's not a new message, really. It's just a different verse of the same song. Or a metal cover version. haha

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A big question: did Trump's racism and demagoguery ultimately help him or hurt him? [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

WOW - trick question? Laf.La.Dem. Dec 2016 #1

sort of-- I had a feeling about the answer but was wondering what others thought Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #5

As I've said in a few threads, exit polls showed him winning on terrorism and immigration. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #2

Yes, I agree. I wonder if when these people said they liked his economic message, they either Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6

Conscious and subconscious biases work their way into many of our decisions. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #11

This treestar Dec 2016 #16

Agreed. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #17

Trumps non-PC comments helped him because they diverted Hillary from talking about jobs Dems to Win Dec 2016 #3

makes sense, and scary it worked. Did he do it on purpose because he's so smart, or it just worked Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #7

Trump is a Reality TV Master. A master of persuasion. Dems to Win Dec 2016 #9

yes, but it also helps that he can lie so easily Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #10

And, yet, everyone knew he was a liar. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #12

we all knew that, very well Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #13

Yeah, that's possible. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #14

It was central to his campaign BainsBane Dec 2016 #4

Yes, it's clear that he didn't win SIMPLY because he had a good non-racist economic message Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #8

kick for a few more votes Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #15