2016 Postmortem

renate

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59. I'm probably hopelessly naive, but Ivanka might be the only voice of sanity around Trump

Fri Dec 23, 2016, 02:13 PM

Dec 2016

From what little I've seen of her away from the campaign, she seems okay. Of course she doesn't understand what life is like for people living paycheck to paycheck, but most people don't understand what the lives of others are like. If she is willing to have an open mind and listen to a variety of opinions, she could be a valuable ally--maybe the only person around Trump who can influence him for the better. For example, I would really be surprised if she were homophobic.

I'm happy to keep an open mind where she's concerned. So far, she hasn't said anything that I'm aware of that's nasty or racist or anything like that. She might be staying close to him and sitting in on meetings, etc, because she knows her country needs her influence. Or maybe not... but I'm willing to wait and see.

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Speaking out to Ivanka, a hate enabler, is what we all should be doing [View all] adigal Dec 2016 OP

Sorry. I can't endorse harrassing her and her family on a plane. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #1

Oh, no!!!!! We might LOOK bad! adigal Dec 2016 #4

Whatevs. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #8

Did you hear that "whatever" was voted the most annoying expression this year? Nt adigal Dec 2016 #12

whatever NobodyHere Dec 2016 #92

No, we don't want to BE bad.. whathehell Dec 2016 #78

If I was seated in front of her, I would have put my seat all the way back. zonkers Dec 2016 #51

Isn't she 6 feet tall? greymattermom Dec 2016 #90

You're showing no class and no civility True Dough Dec 2016 #2

Stop the false equivalences!!!! Obama doesnt want to reeducate gays, adigal Dec 2016 #3

There was no false equivalency involved True Dough Dec 2016 #7

Oh, you mean Obama who was just humiliated on a world stage by Trump adigal Dec 2016 #14

There's a difference between being tough and behaving like a childish loud-mouthed fool. EffieBlack Dec 2016 #72

Trump is a screw-up, keep the focus on him BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #5

Agreed NWCorona Dec 2016 #31

That would make you no better than a Trump supporter IMO. Trust Buster Dec 2016 #6

Thats fine - i expect you to,watch in when they march Muslims to camps, too? adigal Dec 2016 #10

Attacking the man's daughter is fools play and will achieve nothing. You must be kidding. Trust Buster Dec 2016 #32

She is part of his team!!!! Getting an office in the West Wing!!!! adigal Dec 2016 #56

Are her children part of the team too ? Sorry, any way you try to rationalize it, it was Trust Buster Dec 2016 #62

Thank you.. whathehell Dec 2016 #79

So if we harass Ivanka, Muslims won't be put into internment camps. Calista241 Dec 2016 #77

Exactly right. We don't need people who think this way on our side. They are a liability. phleshdef Dec 2016 #67

No we shouldn't oberliner Dec 2016 #9

Really? Dems don't speak out to those who support hatred and injustice? adigal Dec 2016 #11

No, we allow people traveling with their children on an airplane to do so in peace oberliner Dec 2016 #15

Really? That's about as empty as Make America Great Again adigal Dec 2016 #16

Yes oberliner Dec 2016 #20

The Trumposters will appreciate your kindness when they march your neighbors off adigal Dec 2016 #57

Obama administration kicks off family deportation raids oberliner Dec 2016 #63

Bullshit Obama didn't start these raids and the "Obama did it" is a bullshit response uponit7771 Dec 2016 #68

OK oberliner Dec 2016 #69

I agree with you Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #71

Yeah, because failing to harrass Ivanka and her children on planes whathehell Dec 2016 #80

What bothers me is that we are acting just like what we predicted Trump ... spin Dec 2016 #13

No, they were going to have a Second Amendment solution adigal Dec 2016 #17

To be fair to DUers, most of us think the OP is juvenile at best mythology Dec 2016 #39

Sure, it's always juvenile to soeak out against hatred and bigotry. adigal Dec 2016 #58

Exactly EffieBlack Dec 2016 #73

Ambushing and harassing a mom in front of her very young children is beyond obnoxious HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #18

Sure, we should just be quiet as they march your neighbors to camps adigal Dec 2016 #25

Exactly. whathehell Dec 2016 #81

Are you serious? Kilgore Dec 2016 #19

She's not an uninvolved party!!! Have you been paying attention at all??? adigal Dec 2016 #30

Uggh! Kilgore Dec 2016 #38

I'm encouraged to see that the majority of respondents to this thread True Dough Dec 2016 #21

My credo is: Stand up to evil and don't be a coward adigal Dec 2016 #26

Talking tough on the internet melman Dec 2016 #40

My point is I would domthe same if I saw Ivanka adigal Dec 2016 #55

It *certainly* isn't... LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #70

+1. Traitor Trump/his family/his cabinet/his supporters want to dole out hate and negativity to... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #42

To react like that is very unprofessional and immature mtnsnake Dec 2016 #22

The whole thing was probably a set-up! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #23

Amen!!!!! Nt adigal Dec 2016 #27

Not how I want to fight back. Theses guys were just like the ugly person in the Target Fla Dem Dec 2016 #24

False equivalence. Just stop this. adigal Dec 2016 #28

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #33

i agree it is our nature to be above that. But in this new fascist age of trump, we gotta get in the iluvtennis Dec 2016 #43

Agreed. All the polite, nice Democrats here think we are playing by the old rule book adigal Dec 2016 #60

Right on! nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #65

If we get in the gutter with them, how can anyone tell the difference between us and them? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #74

Donald wants to deport millions of Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #29

Right? The people on this thread think Trump is not serious about this stuff adigal Dec 2016 #34

I've seen a few equate Ivanka with Sasha and Malia. FFS! Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #35

I just responded to that! Is Sasha on the transition team? Is she getting adigal Dec 2016 #36

Preach it! nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #44

I don't think many people walk in to Donald Trump and tell him the real deal and are able to get TrekLuver Dec 2016 #37

ITA with you nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #45

We need to recognize Ivanka is no better than her father. It would do no good to yell at her. Hamlette Dec 2016 #41

1 Ivanka did not have a normal father-daughter childhood. 2 She is codependent in a sick .... Hekate Dec 2016 #46

And on top of that, it is HORRIBLE optics... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #47

You have no idea of how to fight evil adigal Dec 2016 #61

Please...you sound like the average internet tough guy... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #66

Actually, people who REALLY know how to fight evil and do it every day, don't do it with EffieBlack Dec 2016 #75

Exactly... it's an example of ZERO emotional intelligence... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #85

Yep Jake Stern Dec 2016 #84

woah Donald just go everywhere with your grandkids! That will stop the criticisms... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #48

I hope her life is as miserable as her and her piece of shit daddy will make it for all of us. libtodeath Dec 2016 #49

I just saw the video of this spinbaby Dec 2016 #50

Weird, huh? DawgHouse Dec 2016 #64

Remember her saying women sexually harassed on treestar Dec 2016 #52

Excellent points. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #53

I thought one of her brothers said that crazycatlady Dec 2016 #88

either one, at any rate they are treestar Dec 2016 #91

I don't think the "ranting asshole" strategy will pay dividends in 2020. Throd 2.0 Dec 2016 #54

I'm probably hopelessly naive, but Ivanka might be the only voice of sanity around Trump renate Dec 2016 #59

I truly believe Ivanka is the ONLY person on earth that democratisphere Dec 2016 #76

I would consider that to be bullying behavior NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #82

You DO realize that many on the right felt exactly this way about President Obama - and that's how EffieBlack Dec 2016 #83

You do not bring the kids into this HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #86

This type of idiotic stunt will do nothing useful and will earn her sympathy from the non-political jack_krass Dec 2016 #87

At the right time and place. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #89