2016 Postmortem

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50. What Greenwald said was correct

Sat Dec 24, 2016, 03:55 AM

Dec 2016

Miranda was detained because of his association with Greenwald. You would not have been detained were you traveling with a hard drive. Greenwald did not say Miranda was not carrying Snowden files. Miranda was not allowed to call Greenwald who would have provided legal advice. Greenwald said he was not allowed to talk to "a lawyer," not that he was denied the right to talk to a lawyer the British government would provide or approve.

In my opinion the odds Greenwald would lie are low and the odds US Govt security officials would lie are moderate. Security agents are explicitly trained to say things which are not true. They have departments organized to train their agents to deceive.

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Am I Losing It? Glenn Greenwald on MSNBC saying hack has no evidence [View all] adigal Dec 2016 OP

Glenn Greenwald. Consider the source. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #1

US Govt has lied constantly, not Greenwald Cicada Dec 2016 #25

Greenwald doesn't know everything radical noodle Dec 2016 #26

Greenwald lied about his partner being held because of his association w/Greenwald... KittyWampus Dec 2016 #46

What Greenwald said was correct Cicada Dec 2016 #50

I think the problem is U.S. citizens don't know what to believe anymore. MSM has failed us so badly. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #2

I just listened to that myself, he said there is doc03 Dec 2016 #3

It's never been verified shadowrider Dec 2016 #11

The head of the CIA said it, now the FBI confirmed adigal Dec 2016 #17

So you're kind of like Trump, you don't believe the CIA, FBI and other intel agencies? brush Dec 2016 #18

I didn't on the whole issue of WMDs in Iraq philosslayer Dec 2016 #41

No, different deal. Trump supporter are you? brush Dec 2016 #43

Why is it a different deal? philosslayer Dec 2016 #44

no... no, 16 agencies said there was a hack of the DNC .... period... come on man uponit7771 Dec 2016 #19

Over a dozen U.S. Intelligence agencies confirm there was hacking by oasis Dec 2016 #22

they haven't confirmed it, they have intelligence to Exilednight Dec 2016 #24

That is simply not true. Very strong evidence that it is Russia - and Putin Justice Dec 2016 #30

Not to mention its fairly easy to impersonate a country on the web... Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #40

Yeah sure, you work in IT and it's easy to impersonate a country on the web LOLOLOL KittyWampus Dec 2016 #48

I saw the article referring to that. Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #52

they have evidence, but they don't have conformation. if someone said otherwise, please post it. Exilednight Dec 2016 #45

Exactly my point... Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #53

The CIA, FBI and Obama say the Russians did it. The only doc03 Dec 2016 #31

It has been verified, so stop spreading disinformation on DU. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #47

Greenwald might as well join JPR radical noodle Dec 2016 #27

You can't believe anything out of that lying, thieving asshole. He'll side with Putin over Obama.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #4

It's Glenn Greenwald. JHan Dec 2016 #5

OK, i dont know anything about Greenwald adigal Dec 2016 #6

Same here, just as well eliminate MSNBC and CNN nt doc03 Dec 2016 #7

Indeed, Greenwald has been pushing the same fact-free nonsense on Fox. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #15

I watched the same interview and couldn't believe what I was hearing either. skylucy Dec 2016 #8

Greenwald is not a dem. He's a supposed liberal independant, dionysus Dec 2016 #23

he's another Putin pet. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #9

Greenwald was a support of the Iraq war Trumpocalypse Dec 2016 #10

He is likely on KGB payroll itsrobert Dec 2016 #12

Greenwald and Tucker Carlson agree. That should tell you something. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #13

Greenwald is a Putinista mcar Dec 2016 #14

More reasons to investigate. Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #16

Yes!! This is much more tied in to Trump than they are saying nt adigal Dec 2016 #20

Greeenwald has his loyalties and they are not to the west and progressive ideals. Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #21

Well, maybe he is not privy to the results of Intelligence that say they do have proof. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #28

Greenwald's reputation has long been in the sewer. duffyduff Dec 2016 #29

The whole idea that a stealthly super hacker named Cozy Bear is Russian HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #32

Well, mistake one: Listening to Greenwald. Adrahil Dec 2016 #33

Why do you listen to those fools? MoonRiver Dec 2016 #34

Glenn Greenwald created a straw man argument. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #35

Why would anyone trust a word Greenwald says? MineralMan Dec 2016 #36

He makes his living off those hacks. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #37

You missed "It's Greenwald" NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #38

Greenwald is a pro-Putin propagandist. He has no credibility. DanTex Dec 2016 #39

Thank you - I didnt know anything about Greenwald, bit it was MSNBC adigal Dec 2016 #42

So you trust the people who said there were Iraq WMD? jfern Dec 2016 #49

This guy... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #51