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2016 Postmortem

BlueMTexpat

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20. It wasn't the DNC.

Reply to Axolotls (Original post)

Sat Dec 24, 2016, 05:59 PM

Dec 2016

It was the primary voters in 2008. You see, the Dem party has this rule that the person who gets the most votes in the primaries is the nominee. In 2008, that person was Barack Obama. In 2016, that person was Hillary Clinton.

We can speculate all we want - and I was a Clinton voter in 2008, who got fully behind Obama - and I was for some of the reasons that you mention. But you underestimate the absolute hatred of Hillary that the Reich Wing has always had, although they might not have been as well-organized then.

But Hillary was not the nominee in 2008 and all the speculation in the world will not change the facts.

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The DNC messed up (Hillary '16 instead of '08) [View all] Axolotls Dec 2016 OP

The rule, I'm told, is that the nominee is the candidate who gets the most votes. Orsino Dec 2016 #1

Re: the most votes SFnomad Dec 2016 #5

And delegates' are the votes that count. Orsino Dec 2016 #7

That's only because Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan NobodyHere Dec 2016 #18

You count the votes that voted ... and with that, Clinton won the popular SFnomad Dec 2016 #24

According to Wikipedia, Prez O BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #21

Only if you allocate "uncommitted" Michigan votes to Obama ... sorry, that don't work SFnomad Dec 2016 #23

It also helps that she graciously BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #26

The "DNC" didn't nominate Obama or Hillary SFnomad Dec 2016 #2

I'm an independent but left-leaning Axolotls Dec 2016 #8

If you say so ... SFnomad Dec 2016 #10

Yeah, um, voters BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #3

I don't know, but if Hillary was the nominee in 08, that would have inspired muntrv Dec 2016 #4

That would've happened with any gop candidate Axolotls Dec 2016 #9

Not sure Obama would've been as popular in 2016 Seasider Dec 2016 #6

All that is valid Axolotls Dec 2016 #11

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!!! COMEY, Voter Suppression and RUSSIA !! Fuck all the other bullshit FUD is tryi uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12

That didn't help Axolotls Dec 2016 #14

It didn't help RWTP of Comey, Voter Suppression and Russia weren't a factor and that's a good thing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #15

It would have been better for Hillary Clinton but not necessarily for Barack Obama mtnsnake Dec 2016 #13

It was even tougher since Hillary was the candidate Axolotls Dec 2016 #16

What does it have to do with DNC? Obama run a better campaign and got the nomination. LisaL Dec 2016 #17

Welcome to DU. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #19

It wasn't the DNC. BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #20

Obama was the best President of my lifetime. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #22

the DNC did not nominate . people ran in a Primary. Obama won in 2008 and HIllary won in 2012 JI7 Dec 2016 #25