2016 Postmortem

synergie

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12. You can actually. It's more the utter failure of the media to even bother to

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:54 PM

Dec 2016

cover candidates fairly. You also forget the misogyny at play here, and if you've ever been to this particular county in PA, you'd realize that there is a lot of racism here, they especially do not appreciate a white lady calling themselves out on it. An overlooked factor here is that many thought a vote for the black guy was enough proof that they were not racist. Then HRC came along and told them they had a lot more work to do, that message didn't go over well, and then you have all the other factors you dismiss so easily, all shit that was quite sticky.

I'd also like to remind you that there seem to have been issues with counting or verifying votes in particularly democratic areas. The problem here is that there were attacks on multiple fronts ALL favoring Trump, and that wasn't a messaging thing, it wasn't a campaign thing or a strategy thing.

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Luzerne County, Pennsylvania vs. Loudoun County, VA [View all] YoungDemCA Dec 2016 OP

And, therefore jehop61 Dec 2016 #1

The Democrats have created an opening for populist demagogues like Trump YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #3

I'm not a fan of "Third Way" neoliberalism either. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #8

I voted straight D too. I voted for Clinton in the primaries. YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #10

I did a "bad thing" and didn't vote in Ohio's primary. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #11

Not really a fair comparison since the federal government employs many yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #2

Everything is Topsy turvy for sure Truth321 Dec 2016 #4

I had to look up Luzerne County since I'm not familiar with the area. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #5

too much FoxNews/RW crap for them, I would guess Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6

.... YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #7

Serious response: Did you even look at the results? Many of these Trump counties voted for Obama YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #9

You can actually. It's more the utter failure of the media to even bother to synergie Dec 2016 #12

Obama also held back on talk of racism while HIllary called it out JI7 Dec 2016 #13

Indeed. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #15

Overall, Clinton did better among those making $50,000 or less per year. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #14

"The American electorate" isn't one monolithic thing. Treating it like it is is part of the problem. YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #16

I didn't say it was monolithic. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17

And let me add a point I made in another thread I started: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #18

this, it's a toxic stew of fundie xianism, undergirded with racism, homophobia, and misogyny Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #19