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MichMan

(14,079 posts)
1. I agree
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jan 2017

I think that was a very good analysis. As you stated, it isn't very often that one party wins 3 straight terms; I can only remember it happening once in my lifetime (1988)

One other thing that needs to be mentioned was that many people were just sick & tired of having another Clinton or Bush as president. I think that was why Jeb failed so miserably in the primaries even though he was presumed to be the front runner at the beginning.

I spent most of my life in the Detroit suburbs, and what you stated about jobs was spot on to what I saw. I worked low paying jobs in my 20's while attending college at night, and while I did obtain an engineering degree, I have many friends that made very good livings working for the big 3 on the assembly lines making me often wonder if I made the right decision or not. In this area, blue collar jobs seem to be either for the "haves" ( GM, Ford, Chrysler) employees or the "have nots" (everyone else) Due to the high wages made by Big 3 employees, the car companies have outsourced nearly all of the parts production overseas to Mexico & China or to non union suppliers in the US. Much of the unionized supplier plants had to take drastic wage cuts or closed altogether as the auto manufacturers demanded major price decreases in the costs of parts.

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I agree MichMan Jan 2017 #1
thanks for your reply karynnj Jan 2017 #2
What used to be the Republican party is gone......... Little Star Jan 2017 #3
I think part of Bush's problem was how long he had been out of office - and A LOT had changed during Midwestern Democrat Jan 2017 #5
Reading this reminded me of some lines from the Billy Joel song "Allentown" Jake Stern Jan 2017 #4
The problem is that on election eve, Clinton was up by 6, 5, and 4 points in WI, PA, and MI ucrdem Jan 2017 #6
There were a few articles about the problems pollsters had in getting people to answer karynnj Jan 2017 #7
I can't argue with your feelings, but the lack of quantification ucrdem Jan 2017 #12
I was responding to your post that also contained little substantiation karynnj Jan 2017 #13
My first post quantified, my second post substantiated. You haven't done either. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #16
Your real clear politics link actually would substantiate what I said karynnj Jan 2017 #17
So Trump gained 7.6 points and Feingold lost in Walker's state because Hillary? ucrdem Jan 2017 #19
I did not say Feingold lost because of HRC -- the point was that there was a wave against karynnj Jan 2017 #20
Nationally Clinton won by 2+ points. So there goes that meme. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #21
You completely missed the point. karynnj Jan 2017 #22
I get your point. It seems you're blaming the results of GOP cheating on the Clintons. ucrdem Jan 2017 #23
Where do get that I am blaming the Clintons at all? karynnj Jan 2017 #24
I read your OP. ucrdem Jan 2017 #25
You're spot on. The election was absolutely stolen. brush Jan 2017 #31
the thing is they Voted for him in the Primary. They did have a choice and they chose him among JI7 Jan 2017 #8
The over whelming majority of Democrats in the House were against the TPP. The unions think Jan 2017 #9
Exactly karynnj Jan 2017 #10
Stunningly brilliant analysis. Tatiana Jan 2017 #11
On abortion: LeftInTX Jan 2017 #15
I felt sorry for her on that question karynnj Jan 2017 #18
the nativist/nationalist/xenophobic fervor festers where people feel as if geek tragedy Jan 2017 #14
As far as abortion goes, Trump had them at his over-the-top remark to Chris Matthews no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #26
It is not that complicated Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #27
I listened to the various interviews with those voters The_Casual_Observer Jan 2017 #28
Keep in mind that media presentations are mediated. ucrdem Jan 2017 #29
This is exactly why Bernie should have been the nominee. Joe941 Jan 2017 #30
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