2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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21. Look, I support reparations and think Bernie COULD have said more about race

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:38 PM

Jan 2017

(although I think it would have to be conceded that he DID say much more as the campaign went on-it's not as though the Sanders message never changed on that set of issues-and it is still mystifying that people who opposed Bernie for not supporting reparations chose to support Hillary, who not only also did not support reparations but spent much of the Eighties helping build an organization, the DLC that argued that the Democratic Party should distance itself from people of color and embrace racist narratives about welfare, iut of wedlock births and crime).

This is not supposed to be a Sanders vs. Clinton thread. Neither of them will run again. I'm trying to get us towards victory in the future-victory that can only be achieved if people who supported both of those candidates join forces with people who agree with our basic ideas but supported minor-party candidates or who didn't vote at all.

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We can fight vote suppression, Russian electoral interference & institutional bigotry... [View all] Ken Burch Jan 2017 OP

Candidates who focus on those issues probably won't survive the primaries. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #1

Can we please move PAST talking about this in Hillary v. Bernie terms? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #2

I prefer to look at the past to help predict the future. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #3

The answer is to about race AND class...not to just not mention class. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #4

An excellent critique. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #5

Thank you. I'm trying to get us past the primary thing Ken Burch Jan 2017 #6

At this point they are distractions. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #7

We can address both things. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #8

I like the Democracy Summer label. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #9

For Texas, it could be about channeling support to in-state groups. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #10

It's relative. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #11

Perhaps. Although we had one in '84 and '88 & the party brass did all it could to stop him. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13

He scared away too many white voters. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #15

Neither Clinton nor Kerry were front runners dsc Jan 2017 #16

Suggested reading: Garrett78 Jan 2017 #18

I understand the argument on moral grounds, but I just don't think it will work. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #19

You could build popular support for reparations Ken Burch Jan 2017 #22

If that can be done, then good! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #23

Look, I support reparations and think Bernie COULD have said more about race Ken Burch Jan 2017 #21

Exactly what most of us have been doing. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #12

I supported her in the fall, and I've proved I was never a Hillary-hater. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #14

My post had zero to do with Bernie or who you supported and when. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #17

It was that line about sounding like a Clinton supporter and hearing her stump speech. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #20

My post had nothing to do with who you supported or when. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #24

Ok. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #25

Agree strongly. n/t delisen Jan 2017 #26